was it a 5.0?
they are pretty cheap speed iirc, if ugly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ahxxpg/der_8auer_thinks_5_ghz_on_ryzen_3000_is_very/
Donāt have any doubts If der8auer believes its realistic
I wonder if some of his fans no longer follow him when he said that 
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Yeah, it was the 5.0 8 cylinder.
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The link of the benchmark
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/14076820
The 2700x is boosting
The 12 core sample is not
And its a sample chip so 3.6 ghz 12 core is not final
The 12 core engineering sample is also using 1333 ram speed, not 2133 or 3200
This also confirms that the 12 core rumor is real
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So will this be the third time you upgrade in 2 years?
There you have it
Any previous ryzen board will support a 12 core and16 core
more likely ppl upgrade MB for the pcie 4.0 rather than the cpu anyways ;p
And RAM compatibility.
DDR5?
last i knew wasnt any mention of it being made 2019 (where as psie 4.0 has been)
Keep expectations in check. For single core gaming there might not be as huge a perf increase as people are hoping (io module anyone?).
Not as big of a deal as you may think. Certainly not as big of a deal as having the split resources of Zen (which didnāt wind up causing as many real-world losses as predicted).
Keep in mind that Intel didnāt incorporate the I/O controller into the CPU until Nehalem. Conroe and its successors still managed to mop the floor with everything else on the market with its I/O module (including memory controller) not just off-die but off-package as well - it still had a North Bridge!
If anything, it may work in their favour with the 3-chip variants (>8 cores), since every core will have the same penalties imposed on it.
You might be completely right. The massive cache increases are also going to help and clocks might even offset the potential losses of the io module. My stance I we donāt know how the desktop variants will perform until we see them.
Servers on the other hand are moping the floor with Intelās CPUs.
another leak with possible specs/prices
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-specification-price,38731.html
while always case they wont be near (as its not 100% known to be true or not) if they are even in ballpark amd gonna be killing it.
cheapest is a 6core, 12 thread cpu 3.2ghz and a 4ghz boost for around $100-111
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/b1oiv8/new_information_on_amd_ryzen_3000_series_cpus/
TL;DR
ryzen 3000 series will support x370, b450 and x470 boards via bios update, no official claim of b350 support due to them being low end
No ram issues for x570 and 3000 series like the past generations
The ryzen 8 core sample at CES was only running at 30-40% power capacity 
(Which means I was right about that ryzen engineering sample at CES was indeed not official clock speeds unlike others didnāt believe)
3000 series will have higher clocks than previous generation
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You gonna upgradeā¦again?
Lets be generous and say that itās 20% faster than Intel single core.
Iām still not upgrading, lol.
This counts for my rig and my wifeās 1600.
good thing AMD doesnt make them specifically for you?
other ppl may have an ancient pc (heck im still rocking my i3-4130 and plan to for years to come) or no computer at all.
it would be a good thing for those to get if they dont want to spend a ton on intelās stuff but want decent performance.
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It was less a poke at new builders or long time builders, and more a jab at āRyzen saves you $$$ from upgrade path unlike greedy intel and their motherboards; WAIT HMB while I upgrade 3 times in 2 years and spend 2x as muchā
It still does
Someone with a 1200/1400/2200G for example on a x370/b450 motherboard can still get a 12 core ryzen without the need of a new motherboard, meanwhile a z270 board is stuck up till kaby lake until you buy a z370/z390 for coffee lake(refresh) for higher count cores even though both motherboards still use LGA 1151 setup
Why you do this ![:frowning_face:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/frowning_face.png?v=6" ":frowning_face:")
I explained many times already, I already had planned two systems to be set up, one Linux and one Windows, the unfortunate things happened to my situation made it convenient
To answer your question earlierā¦ No Iām not
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Or, they coulda got the 1600/1700 to begin with and upgrade after 4 - 5 years to the new best thing.
Like most people do.
Vast majority of people only upgrade when they have to. And that point isnāt between a 1600 and a 3000.
To be fair, as a 1700 owner Iām only considering upgrading because I have a spare board. Outside of certain niche situations the 2700X didnāt represent a massive upgrade for me, but if they pull off both the rumoured performance gains and the 16-core consumer model (I do some content creation stuff which will love it), it will be enough to convince me itās time to change.
I only have the spare board due to a bad BIOS update. The guy at the shop I spoke to tried to get it processed as a refund since I bought a new board at the time I brought it in, but it was just a repair (at least I hope it was repaired, as I havenāt actually tested it since it came back). I plan on turning it into a gaming server.