Ryzen 3000 spec/price leaked (supposedly)

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Intel presently still wins in the desktop consumer mainstream enthusiast category with the i7-9700k/i9-9900k.

That said, nothing below that from Intel is compelling at all.

Low end budget: Athlon GE/R3 2200 obliterate Pentium and i3 in value. Unlocked i3 is a poor value because it’s base price is already in the realm of the 2600, add on the cooler cost, and then the z-board cost, and it’s no contest on value.

Mid range: Ryzen 5 2600 destroy locked i5 in almost every scenario and is in parity in gaming when overclocked. Unlocked i5 is a poor value sentiment because you are looking at double the effective cost vs Ryzen 5 once you add CPU base price, cooler, and z-board costs.

High end: this is the only space Intel claims, but it does it well.

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tbh id go as far as to say nothing above the 8700k (maybe even 8600k) is owrth the sharp price increase.

as 9th gen solder isnt the best and is near impossible ot repalce.

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I just watched CES 2019 Intel’s show again

They mentioned sunny cove architecture but no launch date he’s claiming :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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The differences is that the performance is there, regardless of how much it costs.

You can’t get that performance from AMD no matter how much you are willing to pay.

That said, while Intel has the high priced high performing corvette, AMD has the Honda Civic/Accord which crushes everything intel has in the Malibu categories in value and sometimes performance.

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Lockedheart is saying even though the 9900k is the best, it’s not worth it’s price

Ryzen 2700x and the best am4 motherboard (Asus crosshair motherboard) is $279

Together they are almost $600, I’m including the stock cooler because it can handle the 2700x no problem

Meanwhile, comparing to a 9900k, the similar price board (Asus Maximus Hero), and you still need a cooler

So I’m not cheaping out the CPU cooler so I’m suggesting a noctua NH-D15

Now the 9900k build is $900 with those 3 parts, I’m not even including water cooling unless you want close to $1000 parts on those 3

Before you give me this “but look at 1080p lul”

You shouldn’t even be playing at 1080p if you go spend $1000 on the 3 parts alone because anyone even getting a 9900k is capable of gaming at 1440p 144hz or 4k

But even then at 4k the 2700x or the 9900k are still in the same range fps wise

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I know what he’s saying. And I don’t agree.

Performance per dollar at the top end always suffers diminishing returns. Look at cars, look at anything. A mustang GT offers 80% of the performance of a Corvette z06 at half the cost, so you can’t possibly justify the cost of the Corvette, right? That isn’t how it works.

And for the record, we are already seeing the bottleneck with the 2700x with a 2080ti at 1440p/4k. It will only get worse once the next generation of GPUs launch.

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But you can get an 8600k, or an 8700k and OC it to 5ghz like the 9900k, without the heating issue of a 9900k like what lockedheart says :rofl:

Besides

I thought you said (along with others) that no game would benefit 8 core 16 threads anyway :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I’m not accusing you directly but if I remember correctly, I remember people saying “no game would benefit all 8 cores from a ryzen 7 anyway, you’re better off getting a 1600/2600 instead” on the old forums

But here you are saying gamers can buy the best Intel chip in the market even though it’s ironic

The car example however, isn’t the same

The people who can benefit all 8 cores 16 threads can go ahead and get ryzen, 9900k or threadripper (for more core advantage)

The benefits of a Corvette however, benefits the cops of giving you a police ticket easier because they expect you to go over the speed limit in a Corvette.

:joy:

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Salestria has a legitimate point. The 9900K or any other top end hardware is usually overpriced because it takes a lot more effort to make it than anything else. The 9900K is king of gaming but You’s point is also correct. The 9900K is slightly faster than the 2700X without going out of spec and having the 9900K consume as much power, if not more,
than a threadripper.

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You can get a Civic si and spend $10k in mods and get it to run 11s.

It’s still cheaper than the Vette and almost as fast.

Doesn’t mean I’d want to drive the Civic.

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I get your point, but for the record, I’d take the modded Si. Tuner cars are fun.

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And majority of the people who buy civics, Chevy Malibu, Toyota Camry, don’t expect to drive like crazy either because it’s just a car to get to point a to b

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vettes are beautiful cars (older original design not the newer ones thta changed)

this is why the 8700k (and a good silicon lottery 8600k) are basically the best performance = dollar cpu.

9th gen was one of the worst “upgrades” in history (miniscule base benefits)

8th gen OC very well and can easily match the 9900k with little effort.

while z390 boards DO have a benefit over Z380 boards.
for performance its a better choice to go with a z390 and 8th gen chip than a 9th gen chip and a z390 board.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-cIX9U4vc

beat the BMW lol, but from the looks of things, woulda lost if the race was any longer.

meanwhile, my same car (not mine, but same thing):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrY3f2RvNo

LOL

I’d rather have the vette.

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Oh nice, haha. My first car was a 1996 Honda Civic. Sold it when I moved where it snows and bought a Jeep Wrangler instead. Now the snow is my b

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i just have the Civic because its cheap on gas and has 4 doors.

The 6 speed and tiny turbo is just kinda fun sometimes.

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I loved delivering pizzas in the city in mine.

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You can also get a base mustang GT with the 10R80 transmission and Lebanon Ford will install a Whipple Blower, Tune, Axles and shafts for about 45k out the door car included and with a decent tire, you can run 10’s all day :slight_smile:

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But it’s still a mustang :stuck_out_tongue:

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My mother had an 80s era Mustang when I was growing up. (The one that looked like an overgrown Escort).

She used to call it a “Mutt-thing”.

Hated that car, but it was given to her free so we couldn’t really argue with it.

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… because i wasn’t talking about anything they said at CES. I wasn’t even aware Intel HAD a thing at CES, because i dont sit at my computer 24/7.

There was an article released like… almost two weeks ago now.

Funnily enough, its like the very first thing to pop up in a Google search.

Given who the poster is, though, inability to use Google seems par for the course.