Ruin "Gaming" and Nazjatar

Finally, someone understands.

Couldn’t agree more.

I don’t know, but I think the same could be said about the some of the horde player’s posting in this thread.

I agree with you wholeheartedly here.

I kind of disagree here as I have been in the zone when there is a huge lagfest raid rolling around and it never really lasts more than 15mins than the BfN is over and it’s back to normal. Is it annoying yes believe me I play on a potato so it’s slide show wow for me. But honestly it’s no more annoying than getting kill/camped while trying to finish your loot quest in Uldum for over an hour.

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I disagree … it’s only the fault of Blizzard . They make a feature and release it but players can’t play the way Blizz wanted them to play it . So whose fault is it ?

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Alphon, your idea sounds interesting…in theory.
And yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if RUIN fell to that sort of mutiny.
But that cannot happen in my raid, dude. I choose to not elaborate further.

I don’t think anyone here is denying that before/during/after BfN, ruin and others like them are creating a bad situation

That isn’t the issue I have a problem with. It’s this

He gets lag at some random point of time, that is no way connected to BfN. He flips out and thinks it’s because of “alliance abusing sharding”.

He’s all like "Oh look, some alliance and horde are fighting, in wm (big surprise) and I’m getting lag. MUST BE AN ALLIANCE RAID ABUSING SHARDING!!!"

How does he know it’s a raid? Some guy in chat said it was thus he heard it on the internet so it must be true! It can’t possibly be

  • a large gathering of alliance from all over the zone mind you.
  • or a small handful of regular parties (horde and alliance) using game features in exactly the manner Blizzard designed them for and encourage players to use

NO! It’s a RAID from LFG that shouldn’t be in the shard and is abusing sharding.

That’s his irrational mindset.

No other possible cause.
Nope.
Not his computer.
Not his internet.
Certainly not the fault of any horde, who also use LFG.

It’s irrational and stupid.

And honestly it just magnifies and helps Ruin by attributing to them some sort of super powers. That ruin guy looked at my screen crosseyed! I NOW HAVE LAG

And yes multiple people in this thread from the horde and alliance side have tried to educate him that ruin doesn’t bother with Nazjatar except for the bfn

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Yea, that’s gonna be a big Yikes from me. Are you a mechagnome in disguise? Because you got a few screws lose.

Tinker’s aggro is triggered by stoopidity.
100% firme vato.

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Are you kidding? Only the fault of Blizzard? The communities know what it’ll do to the servers. They know that it lags the server. You can’t even play the game at that point. They know this and continue to do it.

If the servers could actually handle it, if I could actually cast my spells with little to no delay, I’d be fine with this form of WPvP.

I do alot of questionable things on WoW, I must admit, but even I can say I hold some blame for it. It’s my fault as well, not just Blizzards.

Pretty sure that’s their fat human druid leader on an alt.

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Who you callin FAT nose face!!!

Dude, I’ve seen them forming up in a shard before battle popped and, yes, it effected the game server.

Are chances high they will just be in a shard you enter without a battle running? No. Is the chance there? Yes.

100% Blizzard’s fault. Nothing of note has been done to try to fix it. If their server can’t handle x numbers of players fighting in a shard then x number of players shouldn’t be allowed in the shard until they are able to improve performance.

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We all know it’s CL and their alts on horde.

Because it’s that easy to just fix their servers, right? I forget that you’re suddenly the expert on server stability.

Honestly BfA is such a mess at this point and they won’t do anything to it. This is literally the last patch for 8 months. I’d much rather them focus their time on developing Shadowlands than BfA right now. BfA is crap.

In my opinion, it’s 70% blizzards fault, 30% zerg communities fault. Why, like actually why would anyone in their right mind want to play with unbearable lag. You can’t even play the game properly. Spells and abilities having a 5 second delay? What kind of crap? Literally the only thing you can do is use as much AOE spells as you can and have healers who can do the most AOE healing. Just spam AOE. That’s all it is, can’t even use any other abilities because it’ll lag so much.

If their servers can’t handle certain things … they shouldn’t put that in their game

It’s all of the new crap they’re adding which is why they can’t handle it. There’s multiple individual auras on players and other NPCs and crap, not to mention cross realm interaction, that just piles up to the point where 40v40 or more becomes unbearable because the zone is having a hard time keeping track of all of this crap at once.

It’s the same with exploits dude. Remember when people abused world quests back at the start of BfA? How there were certain world quests that wouldn’t lock after completing them, and logging out and back in would allow you to complete them infinitely? You see so many players saying it was Blizzards fault, which it was, but also the players abusing it. Those players abusing it? Banned.

“Oh but it’s Blizzards fault!” Yeah, no crap. But players who literally know what they’re doing is bad? Their fault as well.

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First things first. I pay a monthly fee to play a game called “World of Warcraft”. I use the systems available to me from Blizzard, to form raid groups in Nazjatar every three hours. Using these wonderful tools, I create 4 raid groups per shard on up to 8 shards and fight in a World of Warcraft battle to STOP the Horde. I have NEVER lost a battle! I do this every three hours. In general we will run on four shards, then when the first four shards are won, and they are won EVERY-TIME, I move on to another phase. I have lead my groups to victory on servers where the Horde have had over a 2500 point lead, MANY TIMES! I will continue to use the system provided by the Blizzard Overlords to fight in open world PvP in a game called “World of Warcraft”. Please note, all of these same features I use to make you and your kind cry, are indeed available to YOU! All you need do, is create a great Horde guild and community system the same way RUIN has! Once you do that we will be glad to destroy you cry-baby Horde on every server, and every shard you wish to travel to. We, as a guild desire nothing more than the Horde building a fighting force to take us on! PvP is our business a, more on some shards.nd you will fail. However, Blizzard has given you the tools, and you out number us at least 80 to 1 across all servers. So, PLEASE sir, bring it in a game design mode designed for one thing and one thing only. The Battle for Nazjatar, where hundreds of Horde gather, and hundreds of Alliance kick their asses every three hours, 365 days a year!
We are going nowhere. We will be here for years to come. The more you complain, the more fun we have. Remember the Tree!

You know, you really break my immersion with your alliance propaganda when you post from a horde account, right?

Seriously, though, I’m going to explain something from a perspective you may not have though of or even care about: if I think the behavior you’re doing in game is wrong, it doesn’t matter to me if it’s available for me to do, as well. I think your multi-raid shard hopping is actually disruptive to organic world PVP and while you have some fantasy your guild is “helping people learn to PVP,” what you’re really doing is creating a culture of co-dependence. They need you for the carry and you need them to feel like you have purpose in a video game. No one is learning to PVP in your raids. In fact, even in this thread, alliance players have said there have been close games and they hope Ruin shows up so they can be assured a win. They’re learning how to generate server lag.

It’s your money and you get to play the game however Blizzard will allow. I’m just a believer in “just because you can use a system doesn’t mean you should,” though.

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Please use paragraphs.

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