This is rich coming from the guy who uses exploits to win btw. Big oof.
Only when people bring raids to kill me. Thatâs why I always offer 1v1s, but no oneâs man enough to accept them.
Why specifically 1v1? Either you complain about things not being small scale pvp, people not 1v1ing you, or that you donât large scale wpvp.
No matter what your NPC response to any wpvp will be that you use exploits because you were engaged in wpvp.
Ask anyone Iâve actually engaged in small scale or 1v1s with on the forums. This is not what I do.
When people decide to bring raids groups for one person or their group of raids, I have no way to fight that unless I bring more as well, or resort to such measures. And as you just said yourself, you know I dislike large scale WPvP. Itâs because it lags out the servers and I enjoy playing the game without spell or ability delay.
Because some people donât like zerg WPvP⌠Literally read the comments on this very thread.
I mean, I donât know what else to say then.
Your line of logic literally is:
âI dislike wpvp with a large number of people, so everytime this occurs I will use exploits which I know is scummy and no one likesâ despite the fact that there is nothing stopping a certain threshold of people from entering a certain shard. Do you see a queue for warmode? No.
If this is your conclusion from this logic is that youâre justified in using exploits at any time in every scenario except for a 2v2, or 3v3. I mean, if this is the case just queue for arena.
Iâm aware that shoving 8 raid groups into a single place and then playing Microsoft Powerpoint isnât fun, but weâre usually just one raid half the time. You fought us one time without us causing massive lag, but you still exploit.
Even if we all started using exploits youâd still find something to complain about.
Literally the other day some dude brought like a whole multiboxer army, got wiped out twice, and then they still had to bring more people to fight us back. You donât need exploits to fight people.
Some people donât like it when you use exploits either.
you ALL lose.
Zapey WINS.
I DOMINATE everything in THIS GAME.
Iâm confused to what youâre referring to. The only time Iâve done something like this is in Voldun. 90% of the time I just leave to waste your time.
We used to fight you with Himanshus raids but you would just leave. I remember in Hellfire in the Alliance keep, after that one time, whenever Iâd bring his raid, you would just leave. It became clear to me that you arenât interested in fair WPvP.
Rarely do. I do small scale WPvP alot. And by small scale I donât mean 2v2/3v3, Iâm fine with 10v10 or even 15v15.
Edit: Iâd love for you to give me examples of what I do that is so âscummy.â Do you mean teleporting out of combat when you bring a raid? Or do you just assume everything I do, even if itâs legitimate, is just an exploit?
I guess that idea of only using exploits when you absolutely need it got thrown out pretty fast 
No group respects fair fights in wpvp then nor do they actually want to engage in fair wpvp then. Whether what you actually just said was true or not, people will bail everytime we show up with big numbers. Then whenever this happens nobody likes âzerg wpvpâ
Itâs valid to dislike zerg wpvp because itâs laggy. Itâs dumb to use an excuse to exploit or use it as a cover to actually not like wpvp then use exploits.
Also you, interested in fair wpvp? Give me a break, fam. You canât win without exploits.
You used a quest to spawn multiple avatars of kimbull even though this was patched.
Even you donât agree itâs legitimate, Alphon.
You yourself agree âOnly whenâ when I made claims of exploits toward you. You suddenly want to challenge the idea of whether you do is exploiting or not when you want to shift the topic. cmonbruh
Um, I donât see how. You literally mentioned it here yourself:
I only did this when raid groups came by to attack me. And it could only be done in Voldun. Which is why I said, âIâve only done something like this in Voldun.â
It also wasnât patched out. The thing that was patched out was using the actual vehicle itself to kill players, aka, controlling it and actually using it. Itâs still a follower NPC which, thereâs nothing wrong with.
Iâm not always fighting you in Voldun. Itâs always in different areas. Which again, 90% of the time I just leave.
Itâs not to shift the topic. Itâs a question. Iâm asking you to give examples. For instance, some idiot thought I was exploiting because I was using a well fed buff that turned me into a fish to increase my swim speed by 200%. Apparently, they donât know how to read buffs displayed on a character, and will accuse me of exploiting. Thatâs why I said, give me examples. Something you think Iâm exploiting could actually just be me using an item in the game thats meant for itâs actual purpose.
Nope, and I even counter complained/appealed my ban that they are abusing the system.
U mad we made some new friends and you donât have your pet? LMAO, how were those dirt naps, you seemed pretty mad about it 
This is non-sequitor I donât see how you defending what you did wasnât an exploit is a counter-example to me claiming that youâre inconsistent with the way you claim that itâs justified to use exploits.
https://ptr.wowhead.com/news=290866/patch-8-1-5-hotfixes-for-march-26-bonus-conquest-until-9th-conquest-reward
They patched it out to stop killing other players of the opposite faction, but despite this you still used it to kill members of the opposing faction. Thatâs definitely something wrong.
Above example.
Mad?
I was laughing so hard watching you guys embarrass yourselves lol.
We wiped you out twice in the harbor room, then you ran away and had to bring MORE people along with your multiboxer army. Then when we were bringing more you ran away.
Same thing happened yesterday btw only in Stormwind. Funniest part being that the other dude left the multiboxer to die lmfao.
It was fun. I donât really like Boralus, and go reluctantly. You fail to mention we held the portal room for quite a bit. We also held the portal room in SW last night. We left when they toys were brought out en masse, some of us were using elixirs, we have it SSâed 
And our MB took one for the team, he canât port out. Youâre just mad cause you canât have him, heâs all ours 
Oh Iâm sorry.
Yeah you did hold the portal room for a bit, thatâs true.
Whatâs also true is you failing twice despite having a mutliboxer army thatâs healing itself. I cannot think of an even more spectacular way to be a failure. This is beyond memeworthy.
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I hope you become comfortable with the use of logic, without being deceived into concluding logic will inevitably lead you to the correct conclusion.
In essence, you have embraced thinking. Robert Frost famously remarked: âThinking isnât to agree or disagree, thatâs votingâ. Thinking and a willingness to learn have brought you to this day. -Neil Armstrong 2005 USC Commencement Address.
We had 0 heals, mb heals are crap. I had to go get my less crappy priest.
Iâm talking about the multiboxer, bruh.
Iâm pretty sure it had like 4-5 shammys on it healing it and self-rezzing (I canât see how many because in the video I have the dks take up the whole space on weiz).
Honestly Iâd understand if you beat us everytime and it was just 20 dks, but those shammys were clearly a failsafe (knowing that youâd probably screw this up), the group still managed to fail at that.
Let me break it down for you. The quest allows you to take control over the Avatar of Kimbul. You control itâs movement and itâs abilities. You were able to take this and kill players with it. This is what they patched out. You could no longer use the vehicle itself to kill players. Thereâs a second part though where he follows you as an NPC, like a pet. This was not fixed. Get it?
Also, Iâm not justifying my actions. Iâm just explaining to you why I did that. By no means am I saying itâs right to do. Youâre bent on trying to prove to the whole world that Iâll always use these, when matter of the fact is, Iâve only used them whenever raids were brought to kill me.
Yes, the one that Iâve literally just explained. What Iâm asking is, besides this, what have I done thatâs âscummyâ in your eyes.
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It was 6 DKâs, 3 shammies, and one lone pally. And I donât much care about dying, I get away almost every time if I want to. Camo FTW!