Sorry, but you’re the selfish one for wanting to take away something people enjoy simply because you don’t like it.
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Everyone says RP has been dead or dying for years. This is nothing new. If you were the veteran of WoW RP you make yourself out to be, you would know this. If you like FFXIV RP so much, stick to it. The story of RP-PvP servers is longer than weeks or days as you make it out to be.
If you really think it’s pointless, roll your eyes and move on.
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I’m not saying it will be different.
I’m saying that if people enjoy it, then just let people enjoy things.
Nobody is going to make you roll on a RP server if you don’t like how they turn out. It costs you nothing to ignore it.
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Sorry, missed this part.
I think this is why faction conflict is so key to RPPVP servers. If you’re defending a location, and the enemy attacks, it doesn’t matter whether they think they’re roleplaying or not. From the defender’s standpoint, the attackers are inherently roleplaying the evil Horde / evil Alliance, whether they want to or not. “PvPers just looking for a fight” still can’t avoid contributing to roleplay.
You’re from a RPPVE realm, not an RPPVP realm. It might or might not be a waste of time having a Classic RPPVE server, but this might not be the right thread for that discussion.
If the RPPVP realm were the same as Emerald Dream, that would be an argument in favor of having it, not an argument against it. Emerald Dream is one of the healthiest realms population wise of all the hundred odd current realms.
I agree with an earlier poster that Blizzard should look especially hard at population trends in Vanilla, though. And in Vanilla, all RPPVP servers maintained their initial populations throughout, and well into the next expansion. Contrast that with normal PVP servers, most of which had population crashes shortly after everyone reach max level.
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and now we come to #1 killer of RP servers: RPers apathy and blind acceptance of people that care nothing about them.
“Why are you so meeeean Urakh?”
“It’ll be ok Urakh!”
“This time will be different Urakh!”
NO IT WON’T.
RPers say that every. damn. time. and it still isn’t true.
I’m so toxic because I have watched this play on repeat over and over and over Ultima, Lineage, EQ, EQ2, DAoC, FFXI, Wildstar, GW, WoW, every FFXIV server but Balmung.
I see you’re from Moon Guard. Apparently you’re pretty new or you would remember MG before Cross-realm. Back when you couldn’t go 5min without an event being advertised and RPers frolicked freely because nobody “comes for the community” when said community is widely believed to be nothing but perverts.
Then the Fire Nat- I mean Cross-Realm came and everyone saw the “perversion” was 1 inn full of mostly-silent people standing around in their skivvies.
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You’re not wrong. This is how it played out on Argent Dawn. However, it’s not 2004-2006, and most players will have one foot in the pool. I’m fully confident that Classic RP servers will sort themselves out a lot faster than it did back then.
I remember Moon Guard before Goldshire. Goldshire was Vanilla, on Argent Dawn. When Blizzard opened up Realm Migrations from Argent Dawn to Moon Guard, that’s when all the roleplayers moved, and that’s when Goldshire became synonymous with Moon Guard.
The issue with Moon Guard and Goldshire was the open nature during Wrath of the Lich King with which players were ERPing. Blizzard cracked down and actually had a GM patrolling Goldshire. That’s why it became a weirdly quiet place after crossrealm.
I’m not sure what they were paying that GM, but I feel like it wasn’t enough for what they went through.
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If rp-pvp servers aren’t available at launch, then I won’t be playing at launch.
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You’re repeating the same things people have said for years about every RP community. Every opinion I have heard on FFXIV RP has been polarized between those who participate and those who don’t. Why should your’s have more value?
RP communities are what you make of it. If you go in with negativity, you will have a bad time. Again, if you really think this is pointless, stick to what you know is fun, roll your eyes, and move on.
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Perhaps another reason might be the change of what the character represented in vanilla (a lowbie in the world just doing their part) to modern retail where everyone is literally the savior of the planet and beyond. Maybe the RP atmosphere evaporated due to the sheer ludicrousness of the game world.
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You could always just ignore the story that the game puts forth.
You’d have to do it in Vanilla too, to be fair. It’s not like we ALL could have killed Van’Cleef or uncovered Onyxia’s plot to corrupt Stormwind from within.
I don’t have forum-acceptable words for how ridiculous your argument is.
I don’t raid, is my opinion on Mythic raid balance anywhere close to that of a hardcore raider?
Of course not.
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Well Urakh, you’re free to feel how you do, i only ask that you leave a heart in the OP and i don’t think anything i say will change your mind, so i won’t try.
I won’t most likely RP a lot but i will help the community and be a good person, and do my best to make Anti-grief measure that effect RP to an extent. You don’t have to trust my word, but i figure i’d say it.
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Who are you trying to convince? I RPed all through twisted nether’s span in vanilla. I RPed according to what went on around my character. You do not have to convince me, or educate me on how to RP. I did not leave the game because of its RP issues, but others may very well have.
Were those who are making the RPPVP server decision RPPVP players? Hell, the two of them in the video looked at each other as if they didn’t know what the concept was. Should they really be the ones making these decisions?
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The person I quoted thinks so.
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No one is going to invest time and effort to roll on a RP-PvP server just to grief other players, simply because without Server transfers etc there’s no incentive just to swoop in, get your LuLz and leave. They would literally have to waste time and resources when it could be spent better elsewhere. You may be looking at it through a prism tainted with Retail players in mind.
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Once again, you became a great hero by the end of Vanilla. And that story is linear. The story of Vanilla is that of a nobody, that lowbie who eventually rises to become champion of your faction - the savior of Azeroth.
It’s you and your allies who kill Onyxia. It’s you and your allies who down Nefarian.
You BECOME Savior of the planet. And that first part of the journey is Vanilla.
You know, like a linear, single player experience where you rise from a lowbie to a soldier, to a great hero of the Alliance by the end of Vanilla.
Yeah. I gotta say, this is my feeling too. For as long as I’ve wanted to WoW play again, it just isn’t playing, unless it’s on RP-PvP.
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I might not be good at roleplay myself because I’m bad at spelling but just playing on a RP-PVP server gives you the opportunity to enjoy others role-playing all around the world which makes the world feel a lot less empty at almost all times of the year. Unlike other servers but still enjoying the PVP part
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