Rogues over nerfed

I don’t think it is on PTR forum I found it on Icy veins

They’ve been posting them on the general forum.

Warrior: Good dmg, good utility, good defensives, good mobility. no CC
Warlock: Great dmg, good utility, good defensives, good CC, bad mobility
Mage: Good utility, good defensives, good CC, good mobility, bad damage
Priest: Good dmg, good utility, good defensives, good CC, no mobility
Evoker: Good dmg, kinda bad defensives, best mobility, meh utlity no CC
DK: Good dmg, good utility, good defensives, CC is ok kinda, no mobility
DH: Strong dmg, good CC , good defensives, good mobility, no utility
Monk: BUSTED dmg, average utility, mobility is fine, not really good CC, meh defensives
Hunter: Good dmg, good mobility, no utility, no defensives, not really good pve CC
Paladin: Good dmg, good utility, good defensives, ok CC kinda?, no mobility
Druid: good everything but not really great anything
Shaman: same as druid

Now… Rogues
BUSTED DAM, BUSTED CC, BUSTED MOBILITY, BONKERS DEFENSIVES? WTF YOU HEAL TO FULL IN STEALTH FROM SOOTHING SHADOWS ??? CHEAT DEATH WTFFFFFFFFFF
BEST ULTILITY THE GAME BY FAR WITH SHROUD ???

DESERVED, I NEVER WANT TO SEE ROGUES VIABLE

My issue with tons of these types of posts is people list classes and not specs. When you say “priest” we know you are talking shadow cause its the one dps spec. But “rogues” vary in damage, cc, moblity, and defensive power quite a bit between specs.

Stop talking about rogues as if we’re all the same thing. We are not.

Also, if they are so completely broken, it should be relatively easy and simple to get to Rival on all rogue specs. Have you done so? I’d imagine not.

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Apply this logic to Havoc DH and people would throw tomatoes to you. Clearly Blizzard thought the class as a whole was overtuned if they nerfed them by 3% ontop of the individual PvP nerfs.

not sure why are you complaining of rogue nerfs if your 3 specs are at the top

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/31#difficulty=4&dataset=75

What percentage of the community raids? I genuinely don’t know. Personally, I dislike raiding quite a bit. Why is this the only metric you provided? How are they in mythic plus? Not representation, actual numbers. I feel I do well but I am not even close to the numbers WWs and DHs are pulling. Hunters and locks are pretty even with us. Arcane and enhance are insane. I trust in the current process, but it’s always the same thing. I would like to see every class have the potential to be at the top based on skill. I play rogue, maybe dabble with an alt. So it doesn’t matter. I’ll play it no matter what but makes getting group’s pretty rough.

Over nerfed? They more nerft, they own the bracket and butchered everyone in the ladder, PVP talking now, idk if you refer to PVE, but in PVP they need a nerf

Good plus lol lmao

Reroll

Rogues get the top by a small margin for one week and the nurfs roll in immediatly lol

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Say what you want, but gutting exsanguinate, nerfing resounding clarity, AND nerfing Deathmark is absolutely ridiculous when you have havocs and fury running around pressing 3 buttons murdering people… Havoc has more survivability/damage than rogue and only got a slap on the wrist, but assassination gets pancaked by the nerf bulldozer??

Sub in PvP is not the same as Assassination in PvP. You’re not getting combo’d in a single cheap shot from someone playing assassination. Ever. Sad day to be a rogue…

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Assassination was completely underwhelming all of SL now there finally viable, and we get nerfed? Then feral bleeds and poisons don’t get touched I’m sick of the crybabies getting us nerfed. This needs to end now. revert the changes now. end of story. Assassination is finally good or at least it was. Now we get to go through another xpac with us getting the nerf bat right away. Just leave it alone, there’s no reason to get nerfed at all no one has gear yet. Assassination will 100% be garbage now thank you, all you crybaby plebs.

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azz is so azz anyways…boring spec. But agreed stop the rogue nerfs.

i don’t pvp yet, so i cannot really comment in this thread with much weight to my words.

however, in terms of casual world pve, i do think rogues now need some help in the dodge/leech department. the nerf to leeching poison seems like it wasn’t necessary. i reckon it hurt rogues the most when solo fighting elites or groups, not pvp.

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Soothing darkness still heals you plenty in pve, it will probably depend on your spec but most of the changed were directed at pvp.

This happens every single major patch. Rogues get something new, the top 2400 rated players figure out how to abuse it the first few weeks, then blizzard nerfs it.

huh. were you not here for sepsis? lmao

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~https://imgur.com/a/iH7ZQk6~

Have a look at Arena. my opponents are good and I’m climbing as an average player but the amount of constant AOE cleave pressure is too much for an assissination rogue to handle.

The whole game I was running spamming poison knife to slow them down and stay in LoS of my healer.

And is this what a raid parse looks like??

Just curious what do you want exactly?

Right now rogues are doing better than all melee save Warriors and DHs. If you want DH or Fury status all other melee are going to need some massive buffs.