Rogues are getting worse

PVP Battlegrounds
146

BfA unholy is really weak compared to legion unholy, in legion i would just wait for the rogue to finish their stun lock open then beat them into the ground. it took 2-3 rogues to kill a UHDK in legion, BfA is different, UH takes damage like a clothie but is still designed around being a slow tankish juggernaut.

147

you mean like CLoS? its better than AMS, wanna trade?

1 Like
148

She prob wastes IBF +AMS when not needed is only thing i can think of and prob doesnt asphx them then redot and then sick appoc after cloak ends .I usually do dotts and slow as i kite them they pop cloak i wait and redot then mega burst them once cloak has gone usually gets them . Just have to keep DS and redotting . Dks are like amazing btw .

149

Seems like you dont know how to use AMS effectivly . AMS can win or lose you fights its all about timing .

150

As far as casters are concerned you have bubble like a paly, albeit 6 sec not 10.

Mandatory talent ? I’m sure other classes don’t have mandatory talents.
Show me a PVP mage that doesn’t take shimmer. Across any spec.

Rogues compensate for long cd gap closers by having slows
So what you are suggesting is that Rogues should and deserve 100% up time on targets. :ok_hand::roll_eyes:

1 Like
151

Ive seen fire zippity do dah across the map at flash speed

152

do you think i just started dking yesterday or something?

153

That is cauterize. A proc you don’t get to control that will kill you at the end of it. 5min cooldown on it. During it you are not immune to CC.

Typically you have to burn another cooldown, Iceblock, to survive it or have a healer at the ready.

1 Like
154

You are playing UHdk wrong then infact UHdk is really strong rn

155

Ah i see hmm maybe i should try learning it it does has pretty swords for the presteige artifact that deep blue and purple swords are pretttyy

156

Idk you tell me ? You are sitting here saying uhdk is weak but its actually pretty strong rn . So it leaves me to see that its a l2p issue .Not everyone is going to be good at every class and thats ok . I make a horriable warrior but its still fun . It just seems like you are struggling with UH . I like to play it and melt whole teams its great. I just always go to frost tho because frosty :crown:

157

AMS is laughably weak atm. UHDK and frost DK are laughably weak atm. UHDK is good for spreading damage in large fights like IoC and AV, but that is it.

2 Likes
158

So you want to trade AMS something that absorb damage (scaling to stats) and prevents applications of magic spells and damage on a 1 minute cd vs something A 2 min cd that makes you temporarily immune to magic and removes magic spells?

I’d trade that in a heart beat

159

This is a very long thread were one rogue says the class is lacking or weak?

yet is the highest represented DPS class in Arena across both 2v2 and 3v3

Ive seen a rogue in this thread say he wants magic reduction like a DK… but has a better CD in cloak. Ive seen a rogue say he has worst mobility than a Paladin. Ive seen a rogue say Crimson vial is worse than Victory rush (if VR is available youve already won the match).

These must be those alternative facts i hear so much about now.

3 Likes
160

dks are so strong our representation is top notch :roll_eyes:

1 Like
161

Both CloS and Aspect of the Turtle drive me a little nuts because they’re so much like Ice Block, except both of their host classes aren’t rendered useless while using those abilities and neither can be dispelled. Between those two and paladins being able to damage while bubble is up, Ice Block feels solidly antiquated (though at least bubble can be dispelled).

Really I think being able to dispel CloS and Turtle would fix a lot.

My warrior alt finds herself sitting surprisingly often simply because if I didn’t, the base would be entirely empty.

1 Like
162

Yeah, I agree. I’m talking about typical rogue versus typical mage. There really doesn’t seem to be a lot of good mages out there that are good at kiting and avoiding. But, an exceptional mage can kill a rogue for sure.

Also, I do think a good mage would be harder to fight as outlaw than assassination.

1 Like
163

if you want to think that, its your prerogative. in fact, please do go on thinking that i don’t know how to dk.

164

Not sure that I’d bill myself as “good” but sub and assassination definitely give me more trouble than outlaw. Whether or not I can kite them successfully largely depends on if they’re smart about when they pop CloS. Either way, kiting as fire isn’t exactly a cakewalk.

1 Like
165

Well tbf I did say shouldn’t just like healers shouldn’t. But then again, it’s not Rated BGs.

1 Like