Rogues are getting worse

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I thought with the Nerf hit they would be in line. But now that we’re all better geared, these rogues are almost impossible to kill. Their slows are fricken ridiculous and their recovery time is simply dumb AF. You just can not get away and there is no advantage they cant overcome. The class is broken.

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I’m having a hard time with rogues too.

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The only thing i don’t like about rogues (and any other dps for that matter) is self heals. I don’t know why they decided that every class needs to be able to heal themselves out side of consumables. (I also despise cloak of shadows but that’s because i’m a caster- i can objectively see it’s a “fair” skill.)

Call me old fashioned, but i don’t think it belongs.

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I don’t know why they decided that every class needs to be able to heal themselves out side of consumables.

What you talking about Willis?

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Would nearly every class suffice?

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Listen to these mages and huntards.

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Rogues’ standard toolkit has went unchanged through the 3 prunes while everyone else has lost something.

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Listen to these level 90 rogues.

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If you would like to make a correct statement, then yes it would be sufficient. I get what you are saying but some of the self heals are not as bad as some people think. SOME not ALL.

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this is the part i don’t get, for years rogues have had high dps, and stuns, and cc while using the excuse of “we don’t have self healing so we shouldn’t get the hybrid tax”

they have healing now, time for them to get the hybrid tax i think.

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Well we are glass cannons. Catch us with no vanish and cloak, watch how fast we drop. Rogues attack when they are ready for the engagement. When we have the cooldowns to make the kill or get away.

A good rogue won’t engage unless they ready for it

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No vanish and no cloak? Use evasion. Oh that’s down too? No problem, blinds. Oh wait those are down too? Kidney (20 sec cooldown wtf) -> sprint->reset.

Rogues have top tier damage, top tier survivability (cooldowns), top tier control. You don’t need self heals.

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thats a major difference, atm UHDKs are glass bb guns compared to your glass cannon, yet i don’t have the option to engage when i want. catch a dk without AMS and IBF and they will die 6 seconds faster than usual.

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I wouldn’t mind giving up crimson vial. It’s easily the weakest self-heal in the game.

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Good rogue: “Damn, that flag carrier is right there but I don’t have the cooldowns to ensure I will get the kill. I better wait.”

enemy team returns flag and caps

Good rogue: “Oh well, I’ll get him next time.”

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Weaker than arms warrior heal? :slight_smile:

Crimson vial is on a 30 second cooldown, which makes it a good heal relative to other non-hybrid DPS. They can also get the azerite trait that gives a heal from cloak of shadows.

We could add the healing that you can get when playing sub rogue, but nobody plays sub rogue so I’ll skip that. :stuck_out_tongue:

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In a BG where lots of people are dying then yeah, Victory Rush/Impending Victory probably does more.

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How helpful would you say victory rush is in a 1v1? Also, even in a group fight the warrior has to land the killing blow to be able to use victory rush. You are in a serious state of delusion if you think victory rush is better than crimson vial. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Oh, my bad. I hadn’t realized I was posting in the 1v1 forum.

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How helpful to the team is the 1v1 against the warrior though ?