Rogues are getting worse

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You are right.

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Most of the time :wink::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Bingo most Dps specs should have no healing that is what healers are for. The days of needing a pocket healer needs to come back. I am not sure why Rogues have any healing they have stealth. Hunters have turtle and shouldn’t have healing either with their mobility and range. Just kinda a mess now everyone can heal.

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Ive seen some uhdks go ham they certainly are skilled . It just comes down to player >class> gear imo . what you might find that doesnt work someone else will.

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I’ve had zero difficulty killing UHDKs (or frost DKs) on warrior, rogue, hunter or monk. Most of the fights are trivial. There is a reason why DKs are getting changes in the upcoming patch.

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What changes ?

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mostly a few new pvp talents, buffs to healing and stam, and new azerite traits to replace our current mostly useless ones.

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There is technically a buff to DK damage, DK survivability, DK mobility there not all to the same level of significance but they are technically buffing every area for a DK, and when there forced to do that you know something was wrong.

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Glass cannon … I have just wet myself with laughter…

Rogues have so many tools they could open a Home Depot (US) or Bunnings (Aust)

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Greater Pyro should be removed completely. And this post sums up what’s wrong with Fire, GPy aside.

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Stealth classes always attract tryhards in any game they are present.

The innate advantages of stealth are something they simply cannot pass up.

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I’ll gladly give up shimmer, so long as the million gap closers (and self heals) that melee all seem to have now are also gone. Bring it back to the old days where it was actual work for melee to get to a caster.

It is absurd how much movement and up time melee has. I swear as soon as a melee dies from a caster it’s suddenly time to nerf them because they failed to mongo and zug zug their way to victory.

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Since this is a thread about rogues I feel like I should point out that rogue mobility is currently at one of its lowest points ever.

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It would be at a higher point if you were an elf. Your center of balance is fairly low as a dwarf.

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I feel like dwarves should have monks’ roll as a racial. They could jump in a keg and call it Barrel Roll.

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I don’t mind most mongos but warriors and rogues are most annoying at the moment

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There should be a downside to having access to stealth and even being able to lol vanish mid combat. Affliction locks have (or used to have) solid spread pressure and the downside of that was and still is no setup free instant damage / unable to kill totems in time due to totems being immune to dots and a talent tree / talents now that in essence are nothing but small dot damage modifiers.

Every time a new expansion or balancing patch rolls around you can tell right away that rogues having stealth and all the pvp advantages that come with it played about as much a role in the devs decision making as warlocks having eye of kilrogg.

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I think Havoc DHs, As Rogues, and Fury Warriors are the worst in that order from my experience. Arenas exemplifies this (in 2s more than 3s) but pretty much unpeelable melee is all over pvp in WoW today.

But nah, it’s shimmer that’s ‘cancer’.

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It’s got to be pretty tough to play a warlock in today’s game. You guys are pretty much turrents that just get mulched by melee.