RNG for Rank 4 Essences (Unbound Force, Worldvein, Purification Protocol)

Apparently the RNG essences are the hardest…

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Meanwhile I’m trying to figure out how and if I’ll ever get M Asshara down and then pray to RNGeuses I get the Rank 4 lol.

I thought it was just me, or I was bugged. I still don’t have the mechagon paragon rank 4, nor the rank 4 worldvein.

This really sucks. I enjoyed working towards and earning the other rank 4 essences, but there is no earning these essences. Log in every day and grind out dailies in hopes of the lottery box dropping. Worldvein is worst - one chance a week? Sucks. I’d rather be able to grind out islands daily for the chance of it drop into my bags than be constricted to a once a week chance.

How am I going to feel when these rank 4’s finally drop? Relieved. How did I feel when the ones I earned popped into my bags? Accomplished.

Take note blizzard: working towards a rank 4 essence to earn it felt rewarding, having to rely on a lottery is frustrating and unfun.

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Now assume you actually killed Mythic Azshara and you get the essence. Yet, farming Nazjatar and doing the mythic Island cap every week and not having the RNG ones… :\

Although I know the main concern of this thread is about the Rank 4 essences, I do want to say that as someone also pursuing the mount (which hasn’t dropped after a ridiculous number of paragon chests), I can’t help but be reminded of how at the end of Legion, some devs gave an interview where they said they weren’t going to be putting mounts into paragon chests anymore in BFA because it “felt bad” when you had put months into it and still couldn’t get the drop.

Actually managed to find the clip (with the paragon statement at the 10:00 min mark):

One would think that maybe they could have extrapolated that the thing that “feels bad” wasn’t unique to mounts, it’s simply using paragon chests as an RNG delivery mechanism. Paragon chests feel bad when they get used for soulbound collectibles. Going months grinding 10k rep over and over without getting the relevant item is not a fun mechanism no matter what type of item is put in the paragon chest. (The only thing to me that’s ever seemed fitting to paragon chests was pets, because those can be bought and sold, making the personal lucky RNG not a necessity to get the item).

Of course… they couldn’t even stick to not putting mounts back in, hence the Nazjatar paragon chest mount. Obviously they heard the complaints during Legion. It’s one thing to wonder if feedback is landing on deaf ears. It’s a weirder thing when you see devs actually learning from feedback, and then just kind of forgetting what they learned a few content patches later.

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I just did 2 more Waveblade Ankoan (Unbound Force) paragon boxes this week… Guess what… nothing but resources… This crap needs to be changed.

It also feels worse at the end of this week because you got nothing out of the sped up rep gains of it being the WQ bonus week and it returns to the lower amounts tomorrow.

Ah the achievement for the neckbeard title… I mean azeroth’s champion.

Well here is hoping that bad luck protection gets put onto it. Paragon boxes still give me nightmares because back in legion it took me 500 high mountain tauren paragon boxes to finally get that moose mount.

Puts on tin foil hat. I don’t think the feedback is even seen. I think the devs looks at charts to see how players interact with content. They then decide to expand upon the areas that players interact with the most. It would explain why we keep getting things we don’t like such as pathfinder, allied race gates, infinite AP grinds, island expeditions, and the like.

Well, they knew enough in that interview to know that people found the mounts being put in paragon chests “felt bad” then said they were expecting to just put power-up type items in. So they must have been looking at the feedback during Legion at least. Then they just ended up being dishonest and doing what they said they wouldn’t, then going further by locking Rank 4’s behind paragon chests.

Got another paragon box today. Nothing but war resources yet again… Getting into the upper 20’s on number of attempts. There is a lot of work involved just to have such a low chance at Rank 4 item… even is its just “cosmetic”.

You have all but 2… you don’t have crap RNG.

All the others are from objectively doing something. The only RNG Rank 4 essence I have is the Rustbolt Resistance one. I’m not sure if you’re trolling, but every single other one is objective

I realize I might flex my neckbeard by saying this… but at this point of the expansion in the current patch, for somebody who has literally farmed Waveblade Ankoan rep every single damn day as well as all WQs with a Contract should definitely have the RNG paragon box by now. I looked at wowhead and it is estimating a 5% drop from the paragon box? That’s super low considering the time investment.

Also… just did island cap… no Rank 4 Worldvein (again)… after what… 3-4months of doing it every week? :frowning:

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I’ve lost count of how many Rustbolt boxes I’ve turned for gold/resources. My alt did Rustbolt because she’s an engineer and wanted the blingtron. She got rank 4 in her first box. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Most Rank 4 essences are not RNG. A couple were put behind obnoxious RNG mechanisms. (Paragon boxes and island expeditions). The OP’s luck has already pretty obviously passed the “worse than average” mark, but using these delivery mechanisms for RNG rewards is the real problem. (If the OP had been one of the lucky ones with these RNG mechanisms, it wouldn’t mean that others wouldn’t experience the bad end of it).

The way it really ought to have been is that they should have made it a guaranteed drop from your next paragon chest / island expedition weekly quest after getting Rank 3.

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This is what I had originally thought. But here we are… :frowning:

Hey, im having a hard time getting unbound force too! I’ve opened 13 boxes and still nothing :frowning:

Let’s make that 28 paragon boxes… :frowning:

This man deserves nothing but rank 4 everything because he is a gamer. ion -pls

Every day, multiple times a day.

I get the feeling Ion and the other direct developers avoid reading the forums these days. Twitter is probably their communication method of choice, though they’re using that less these days than they used to as well. Would love to see them give their thoughts responding to a tweet linking a thread like this, but oh well.