RIP Worldpvp ( Community council Member )

As long as he/she/they don’t make a private discord about timegating. I figure there are many relevant topics. It is DAUNTING for a new player sans looms, etc

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It’s a real shame as to I enjoy the game but, this is next level.

I have to level my covenant, get 2 legendaries, reputation, torghast, conduits, honour gear then upgrades, conquest then upgrades. That’s a phenomenal amount of time.

I just want to play

It’s terrible for returning let alone new players.

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Blizzard has chosen to use timegating to replace meaningful content.

This is driving away both new as well as current players in droves.

And Blizzard just chooses not to see it.

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Why would they ban him?

This is precisely the type of topic they wanted brought up. They never said the CC couldn’t create topics that take shots at Blizzard’s development practices and I don’t see any trolling or abuse directed at Blizzard in that thread.

The OP will be fine.

You’re overreacting.

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Thanks Bob!

Imagine if Blizz just followed FF14’s path and made all content relevant so new players wouldn’t feel compelled to gogogogo to get to “endgame”.

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That would be nice.

That’s not Bobby’s design plan for WoW.

I honestly do hope it’s Microsoft’s IP MO however. WoW really needs it badly.

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I was joking lol

It’s just because of the first ccm ban , lot of people thinks he got ban because he was making lot of threads / shots at blizz , but it was just bcs he made a discord with no moderation so Blizzard did not want to be associate with that ofc

I would ban you too Prosident sry , if i’m a bilionaire companie

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They want WoW to be candy crush. The whole business model of candy crush is drip feeding the content to artificially inflate the number of days you engage from as little content as possible. Also an equal goal, to get you to pay mountains of cash for skips. Think locking conduit finisher behind glad is going to be helpful directly to anyone at glad? It is specifically to get glads to charge people gold to get glad, and the type of people who are OK with doing that are the same people who will buy 10 tokens a week. It all leads back to cynical cash grab, and it is cynical cash grabbing 6 different ways all at once. They’re totally off the rails this expansion.

As of the MS acquisition, this was at least plausible, as the WoW gold token is something Blizzard has secretly been seeking to get bought in droves.

I can see your logic, however I don’t know that Activision-Blizzard can kill WoW in just a year.

Then again, 10.0 does look to be DOA at this rate. I expect the possible attempt to worsen timegating and grinds, especially rep grinds, will be the cause.

Honestly thought it was somebody discussing World PvP…

Imagine my surprise it’s somebody named WorldPvP that talks about Timegating. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I think the basis of timegating is a change in both how games are designed, and how the playerbase plays them.

I got into videogames through Baldur’s Gate. The game had a lot of replayability, as you could choose a different class, play a different alignment, pick up different party members (and possibly have them leave depending on your alignment and how you behaved), etc. Its sequel, Baldur’s Gate II, was huge: 80 hours of playtime if you did everything. And it had the same replayability.

Yesterday I was listening to a WoW content maker about gaming news, and he casually mentioned that people were going to be dropping 60-70 bucks on many new games because “no one’s going to replay Spyro more than once – well, I mean you could.” If replayability is no longer considered a major factor among the gaming companies, they’re going to look for ways to get more money out of their customers. For MMOs, the big solution is to increase how long it takes to do what they want in the game. Timegating becomes to go-to, even when the better option may be to let players find out the hard way that consuming everything at once will not get them more content ASAP.

Among players, there’s a focus on treating WoW like an esport: pushing for numbers, following the meta, etc. This is especially noticable to me in Classic WoW, where efficiency uber alles seems to be the rule rather than the exception.

I don’t know if the genie can go back in the bottle. The stockholders like the metrics and the earnings from those metrics. The playerbase wants both no timegating and endless content. FWIW, I would love it if Blizzard walked back its dependency on metrics. And offered a patch in which, yes, players can consume it all in two days if they want…but if they complain about the lack of content and want more, get told “Yeah…no…sorry.”

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yo yo giant wall of text that nobody is going to read lmao

don’t tie double leggo to reputation in 9.2 easiest win etc

The OP is talking about a post that discusses the overuse of timegating on Blizzard’s part to both replace content as well as to drag out content so they can be lazy and work less on WoW.

While you’re not wrong, there’s more to it than that…

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Take my power … I mean like … Wpvp

*Raises both in hands in the sky

Charge the spirit bomb :rage:

ftfy

“now they have to wait 28 days to get the new legendaries that are basically required to actually do the new content“

Everyone is having to wait 28 days

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The post has a problem with run-on sentences and I can’t imagine a developer taking it seriously. Respectfully, I think that shortening your sentences would enhance the readability of your posts. I expect posts coming from the CC to be professional and coherent. However, I understand if people aren’t editing as much because it must feel like you’re shouting into the void.

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im…torn when it comes to timegating.

on one-hand I hate it, Im the type of player that will sit there for hours to get it done or spend days doing it, because i enjoy it and i can.

on the other hand…I’m the type of player that will sit there for hours to get it done, then look around wondering what else there is to do because i just finished months worth of content in a few days. then I just raidlog

i think there needs to be a healthy balanced, but idk what that is.

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some cases yes. Like the 2nd lego.

Could ahve been a quest. Like the bFA cloak. not the greatest quest string in the world to me (my tastes have say Runas quest string top 5 most days, love that part really)…but it was decent. I mean it let me see alleria put her husband mega light boy down if SW was up for vision. Always funs times watching that bit.

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