Right Click Reporting is out of the beta. No official word yet

[Priapis-proudmoore (Priapis)]

If it has become such an issue, would blizzard have not done something to prevent abuse of their system?

[Laethel-moon-guard]

It came up to 3 months. I said it in my post. This happened repeatedly from the start of Legion from the first AotC until Nighthold, where I finally reached the 3 month mute cap since it doubles from 24, to 48, to 3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 1 month then 3 (don’t ask me why).

I’m not lying, I could show you the screenshots of being reported for being muted and the tickets that came with it that said “oh well that’s too bad”.

You can ask any carriers from the last 2 expansions, it’s very very common. That’s why you see level 1s that people use on alternate accounts in case they get muted.

[Twiinkedd-moon-guard]

Why would they? The automatic system allows them to employ less GMs.

I got my one and only squelch in Legion when I came into a discussion in trade about the economy. My ONLY statement was “Unemployment is at its lowest in 50 years. Unless you are unable to work you have no excuse for not having a job”.

LESS than one minute later I was squelched. It is Mob Rule now in blizzard games. But like I said, I can play that game.

[Bricklethumb-anvilmar]

hehe Cause Politics ALWAYS goes over well in wow chat.

[Laethel-moon-guard]

Yeah and getting muted by mass mobs without GM moderation always goes well in video games :x

[Kurwen-stonemaul]

I dunno I often feel compelled to stay in situations that upset me.

[Laethel-moon-guard]

there was a point in Legion and a point in BfA where people abused the right click report system in RBGs where if all 10 people on the opposing faction reported someone, they’d be booted out of the game and cost the game for their own team.

There are blue posts acknowledging the problem and they always said “we took care of it, dw about it”

Yet it happens at least once every expansion since WoD where it somehow slips through cracks that this system is incredibly stupid and lazy automation.

[Misscellany-darkspear]

Why would they? The automatic system allows them to employ less GMs.

This is the reason I believe right click reporting will be in classic. They have already shown that they intend to have less overhead (ie: less community managers) with loot trading. It is feasible that they will also expect the community to police themselves when it comes to these sorts of violations.

I am not advocating for the system, it just seems reasonable that blizzard will implement it due to it already being in the client and costing them less overhead (at the cost of some players being annoyed, and some being unjustly punished).

Abuses of this system need to be monitored appropriately, and people who organize for unjust mass reporting (and therefore abusing the system) need to be held accountable somehow. I’m not sure how the current system handles it - would that be through appellate review?

Also is this related to right-click reporting AFK in BGs (to get people kicked?) - that’s a pretty scummy use of the system as well. Hopefully appropriate measures are in place to track and punish this unfair use of the system.

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

And no, what you did was not mature and adult-like

That’s rich coming from someone literally whining about potentially having to take an extra couple steps to report someone.

[Melaneth-dalaran]

And no, what you did was not mature and adult-like

That’s rich coming from someone literally whining about potentially having to take an extra couple steps to report someone.

Exactly. No one is saying to strip reporting out. But whining because you have to spend 20 seconds instead of 2 seconds to do it, and the GMs look over it instead of an automatic hit sounds pretty entitled to me.

Hmm. I wonder if there’s an Entitled Gamers subreddit, to go with r/entitledparents…

[Twiinkedd-moon-guard]

there was a point in Legion and a point in BfA where people abused the right click report system in RBGs where if all 10 people on the opposing faction reported someone, they’d be booted out of the game and cost the game for their own team.

Careful Laethel, if you post actual facts here of the abuse of RCR the offended will RCR you and get your forum privileges suspended.

[Prufinnor-wyrmrest-accord]

You wouldn’t know an “actual fact” if it smashed you in the face.

[Melaneth-dalaran]

You know, Pru, you’re sounding awfully tense. You sure you don’t want to go down to the Goldshire Inn on Moon Guard? I am sure there would be more than a few people there who would be happy to help you relax.

[Ketho-boulderfist]

I don’t think reporting ever worked on the Classic Beta for one simple reason: C_ChatInfo.ReportPlayer() does not exist.

This function has been used up to Patch 8.1.0, which is the base for Classic API. But for some reason it was excluded.

In the next 8.1.5 patch they even moved to a different reporting system, so they would probably have some issues anyway.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/API_C_ReportSystem.InitiateReportPlayer

This change happened like 2 weeks ago, and I doubt the report feature ever worked without throwing any errors.

• https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/commit/c0a8c6db57d178c50758151021968efe1601f345#diff-495817a2512a59d0552e63cb7eb159ecR999

Edit: I was wrong by one patch, it’s C_ReportSystem.InitiateReportPlayer() and C_ReportSystem.SendReportPlayer() but they don’t exist on Classic either.

• https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/blob/live/AddOns/Blizzard_Deprecated/Deprecated_8_1_0.lua#L197

[Twiinkedd-moon-guard]

Seriously though. You and Gal and a few others seem to have really deep wounds over something you’ve read in trade chat some time in the past. Ask yourself though, if you are offended IRL by mere words posted on a video game chat screen, is the problem really everyone else, or is the problem you?

[Johnnyderp-arthas (Johnnyderp)]

Of course they’re going to have right-click reporting. What. You think they’re going to hire customer support people so that they can stop using the automated banning feature? This is Blizzard. If anything, they’ll start using AI to ban people.

[Prufinnor-wyrmrest-accord]

Please point out where I wrote about being remotely offended. This is you once again not understanding what facts are. This is about disruption of communication in specific public, non general, channels. You cannot seem to grasp that part, or you simply care only for your own “fun”, the hundreds of people in those channels attempting to communicate subject matter relevant to the topic of the specific channels be damned.

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]

Yes. People should receive summary disconnections and chat bans for high crimes such as…

• Advertising their group/guild/item for sale slightly more often than some people would like.
• Wronging a streamer in any way.
• Voicing any opinion that is not overwhelmingly popular.
• Ending up in a battleground that someone’s guildie is queued up for.
• Asking a legitimate question that people assume to be trolling.
• Engaging a world boss that another guild also wants to kill.
  All so you can report gold sellers and botters in 4 seconds instead of 20.

This isn’t just a case of guilty until proven innocent. It’s assumed guilt, and punishment, with no evidence of an infraction or investigation.

So that you can report a gold spammer in two clicks.

Quoting this so more people see it.

[Smew-emerald-dream]

Good sign that feedback matters and is heard, and that action doesn’t mean we’ll see a bluepost before or after.

If something is your top issue, keep pressing. These forums exist for feedback and discussion.

[Vaizel-aegwynn]

100% the right choice if true. I have two main issues with right-click to report:

• It makes it too easy to report other players for frivolous things, which creates unnecessary work for an already taxed GM crew.
• The automated squelch feature is too easily abused, knowingly or otherwise.

Saying something even remotely controversial in a reasonably populated area will likely see you squelched until a GM can review the claims, which could be hours or even days. Not acceptable in Classic.

Simply removing the automated portion isn’t a good enough solution either, because as I said, without automation, all right-click reporting does is make it easier to report other players. This isn’t a solution to anything, and, in fact, creates problems of its own. Namely, an influx of frivolous tickets for GMs to sift through.

If someone is really misbehaving, then it won’t be a big deal to open up the help menu and draw up a ticket. It’s the kind of self-mediating system that belongs in Classic.