Rewritten Alexstrasza Quest on on Patch 10.1.5 - Players Now Ensure Alexstrasza's Escape

And there it is, the real reason for all the hubbub. It was never concern about a character in a work of fiction.

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No that’s one of quite a few reasons but whatever helps you sleep at night.

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good some of us don’t want to be reminded of something that a lot of us have to deal with in some form or another in our everyday lives. with that im muting this thread because i know most of the responses will be “LOLS WHO CARES DEAL WITH IT!” responses made by people trying to be edgelords.

It wasn’t nuanced though.

Like that’s the entire problem. It was a quest that should be nuanced and then did the complete opposite.

It was basically “We’re visiting one of the darkest moments of WoW’s history to ensure that it happens, don’t get caught by the person whose suffering you’re extending teehee”.

It can be more than one thing.

But realistically, Blizzard writing about SA these days is like Lance Armstrong writing about integrity in sports.

No matter how well you write it, people ain’t gunna forget who wrote it.

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Yes it still happened and already happened in the lore so it doesn’t really make a difference. Players weren’t going to be forced. It was an optional quest. It wasn’t enabling the continued assault on her because, as you said, it already happened and still happened. It’s so silly to be outraged over an optional quest in a video game with a fictional world that’s not even close to realistic. I mean the quest revolves around time travel. If they’re going to change stuff every time Twitter wants to start virtue signalling then they might as turn the game into Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Even then people would find something to be offended by, I’m sure.

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The point of the original quest was to make you feel complicit in it. It’s both why Chromie’s dialogue is so cagey and weirdly jokey about you not letting Alexstrasza know what you’re doing, and Alexstrasza herself becoming extremely upset upon seeing you afterward.

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Tea

This is the best case scenario.

Not many players are aware of this part of Alex’s background. Now we get to relive a book moment and be in the positive side of it by rescuing her.

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And instead of just changing that aspect of it they threw out all that time taken that was put in, just to appease hurt feelings.

Could of been a hint of Chromie displaying subtle character flaws for later use down the road but nope, best to just start again and sweep it under the rug.

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That’s cause most of the Warcraft games came out long before they were born, up to the first few Xpacs of WoW even.

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Too be fair, most people would blitz the dialogue and dropoff Deathwing’s bling without even knowing what’s going on. And frankly the whole thing was blown out of proportion by people’s need to manufacture outrage these days.

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I mean, you made a nice strawman here we can all spit at…but over 100 posts in and I’m not seeing any of this.

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It’s so silly to have a quest that revolves around enabling continued SA when there are so many other ways to highlight that you have to let bad things happen to people to preserve the completely fictional, completely in their control timeline that they wrote that don’t involve that specifically. Like the still-existing quest where you make sure that Amber Kearnen gets assassinated.

They tweaked a single quest to make it so that the player character wasn’t complicit in making SA happen for a geegaw and 25 blimblams with a lighthearted joke at the end. That’s not about ‘hurt feelings’, that’s about having a modicum of human decency.

If you have a deep and driving need to explore the implications of doing awful things to defend the timeline, the Amber Kearnen quest is right there. Enjoy!

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While I agree the original quest was tone deaf and should have been changed, I’m willing to be charitable enough to say that this was nowhere near the thought process. I’d more easily believe that they wanted to make it a quest simply because it’s one of the more poignant events in WoW’s history and Alexstrasza’s involvement in it makes it a natural candidate for time travel quests of this nature. I really don’t think that any more thought than that was put into it. Which is certainly a bad thing, but I don’t think there was ever any deliberate attempt to minimize SA.

And for what it’s worth, I don’t think that a tone deaf quest going on to the PTR and then being changed in response to feedback before going live in any way necessitates any changes on Blizzard’s quest writing team. As ugly as this particular oversight was, it was resolved pretty quickly and it’s frankly just not that big of a deal.

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defending blizzard are we…
Why defend a company so bad that they got sued… from something that shouldn’t even happen…

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Turned out everyone was using roids in the Tour de France.

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Won’t someone please think of the Dev time it took to make a daily.

lmao

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It wasn’t just about dev time.
Im sorry that I show just abit of empathy for whoever came up with this quest idea, only for it to be forcibly changed.

Yeah, you just radiate empathy.

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That happens a lot in game development. I’m sure they are use to it.

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