Still think it’s funny that the one Malygos quest is still going strong after all these years.
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I honestly think this is for the better. Before I saw this post I was on the phone with my adopted brother and he was talking about the woke people and how triggered people were. I don’t think it has anything to do with that. I think any normal person, if given the choice, would rather not be, even tangentially, responsible for someone’s SA.
As soon as I heard about I knew right from the start the two best options were that you either ensured her escape or prevented something worse from her during her captivity, eg you prevent the orcs from cutting off her wings as a punishment for her defiance.
Either way, the end result is that instead of Alexstrasza having to forgive you for your involvement she gets to know that you had her back.
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She forgave the Horde. I don’t see what the issue really is. The time travel dungeons were always about letting players be a part of key moments in the game’s history, for good or ill.
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They really like that dumb line about time being cheese.
No they didn’t. Even if they had tons of experience with it.
I think Akston was being sarcastic.
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Good change.
Except this doesn’t change anything about the canon. The events of WC2 still happen and they’re still addressed by Alexstraza.
The only change is that instead of directly prolonging the SA of Alexstraza by ensuring that she doesn’t break out too early, we instead place the domino that allowed her to get broken out in the first place.
Hey, lookit that, the good timeline won for once. Thank goodness this got changed, that old questline was putrid.
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If we are getting this rework then I demand Amber Krenan’s quest be removed/changed.
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I mean….the scenario is very different.
I admit the Amber story makes little sense, but yeah I think you need to approach that argument from another angle.
No, I am approaching it from the same angle of “why should we do a quest(that will likely be a daily) that is upsetting”?
Both these quests are suppose to be “doing something horrible for the sake of the greater good”. Well, if people can’t find the nuance in one, then the same should apply to the other. Or are we only ok with not participating(and even then only indirectly) in SA as oppose to outright murder?
Y, she is still dead. Makes no difference. The whole point of the questline is to show that the Bronze Dragonflight has the power to stop atrocities but has to sometimes make sure they happen in order to maintain the current timeline and stop infinitely worse futures. It’s like having the ability to go back in time and stop 1940’s mustache man but knowing that if you do someone worse takes his place and much worse events take place. Shows what the Bronze do without it being a silly joke for once. Downside is that Chromie is still the character they use the most and she(?) is a joke character. It’s very difficult to take gnomes seriously.
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And Alexstrasza will remain a prisoner of the Dragonmaw and subjected to the same amount of abuse. Either quest does not truly change anything.
It’s an example of “show, don’t tell” storytelling that Blizzard needs to do more of.
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Basically yeah.
You can argue that it’s hypocritical, but the core gameplay loop of many, if not most games is killing things. Very few games have the core gameplay loop of enabling SA, or even feature it as a part of their story, let alone as a “necessary evil”.
I mean…our characters outright murder people daily…if not on an hourly basis.
We even get quests to specifically assassinate high-end targets that may prove to be a threat, so it’s a safety measure.
Do you mean that we would then be involved in Amber’s death? Truth be told you’re still not, it still happens, you’re just ensuring the timeline doesn’t get messed up.
I think the issue in this case would be akin to instead of Escape From Durnhold, we had to take the role of the ones that killed Durotan and Draka, and making sure that blackheart, Blackmore, found him.
Maybe instead of killing her, we would have to make sure she finds the evidence that leads to her death, I.E. whatever it was she found that proved that the Broken Shore was a trap. Similar to how, in Culling of Strath, we had to make sure Arthas found the plagued grain.
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A nuanced and morally gray quest about the responsibilities of the bronze flight changed just to cater to some peoples savior complex.
Just shows that any ideas that try to tell more deep, dark or nuanced storytelling that come out for WoW can and will be changed based on “hurt feelings”.
Like, if this quest came out initially what it is now no one would have issues. But the fact that it was changed by what I can only describe as “moral beating” is what is saddening.
We as people are not “complicit” in any vulgar or violent act our characters do in game. Its all fiction.
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The change is that Bliz went fully 
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again. Poor choices like this simply lead to the whole experience being watered down.
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