lololololol your either high asf or your a troll… a mini troll at that.
You cant deny that hunters and locks abuse their pet against other classes and fairness is being looked at here.
Also size doesnt matter your racial overtures at my Goblin heritage are most unwelcome!
If there was fairness rogues stealth would be 10 second duration with a 2 minute cd.
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Hey we got a beta build and pet rez is still 6 seconds.
Where is the beta build you’re talking about?
They are not going to change it at this point they have been very clear and refuse to listen.
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Just be glad its not 10 sec cast like it has been in the past.
6 sec is a long cast, but its not that bad in the grand scheme of things, and overall a good move in some regard because it requires you think about your actions on where you send your pet, and also requires you manage it a tiny bit better.
Without requiring pet management the performance of a pet will be decreased significantly because it has to be in order to keep the class even slightly in balance with the rest of the classes in game.
Risk VS Reward and opportunity costs are required for high quality game play, and I get it, now days no one wants the risk, they only want the reward, but there is no fun in that.
The use of macro is universal for any kind of PVP even at the lower tiers of competition, every one does it.
Thing is, pet management should always be important, just like its important for a warrior to avoid LoS’n his healer or a rogue to avoid getting destroyed because he trinketed the wrong thing at the wrong time.
There are lot of things like that, and pet management is a small price to pay for what is a secondary auto attack and special attack set as an extension of your self that can be killed and resurrected without a direct full arena penalty like character death that can be very much a loss. You have the ability to not only recover form a lost pet with far greater ease, but can in certain situations get away with a lot because pets can be when managed well very strong.
Blizzard has catered to hunters over the last 15 years, your pets now automatically get behind the target, automatically stop attack when CC is on target that can be instantly broken like blind or sheep, they automatically are a zillion times more tanky than they were 15 years ago, and you can heal your pet and res you pet in a far more effective way then you could 15 years ago.
The skill required to play a hunter now in retail is less than a fraction of what is required for a hunter playing at the top level in TBC Arena, and that is even to a degree if there were arena in Classic slightly easier than playing in Classic.
However there is no rated PVP in Classic and that’s fine, but the fact that pet classes are crying that they have to manage their character and the extension of that character is just laughable.
3 seconds, sure. 6 Seconds? WTF Blizzard.
With current pet survivability being crap versus cleave and direct damage they can’t possibly think this is a good idea. Most players neglect the pet as a main target because they know it will just die to cleave but all pet classes can get a rez off decently fast right now. If they increased the tankiness of all pets and then decide to make it a 6 second rez then sure I can see this being ok. But people are just going to train pets down and kill it in one stun on a healer and then train the pet class the entire game dumping all CC into them.
BM and Surv cannot actually function without a pet.
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Welcome, I’m sure you’ve not been reading the entire thread but having this perspective means you have little to no experience in rated PvP with a hunter. I’d give it a try and see how fun it is to get your pet up even with 2 seconds rez as it is now with a competent opponent, or see how easy it is for pet to die even with proper management and heals.
This perspective has been shot down time and time again in this thread. It’s effectively a disarm with requiring 6 second channel that’s interuptable, stunable, and ccable to be able to fully function again.
Even 1 more second over the 2 while better than 6 does really suck. Pet’s need a massive buff to their ability to survive or we should get an instant rez on some sort of 2 min cd.
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And you are trying to conflate BFA’s PVP with Shadow lands, they are entirely different.
This has been tested by testers in Alpha and Beta.
Warlocks got their fix to this with an instant rez on 3 min CD. They can also start to summon demon without it fully being dead giving them ability to not fully just react but can be proactive on their demon management.
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Warlocks =/= Hunters and should not be the same.
No you’re right, Hunters should have better resources to manage their pets due to the more we lean on them.
Your comments above talk about classic which is an entirely different game that’s definitely not as fast paced. To focus on the management as you did on classic you’d have to slow the game down on every level and competitively that’s not going to happen.
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I know its a different game, and BFA is different from Shadowlands.
Thing is we dont have an established meta for Shadowlands because the tuning for it is not even remotely complete.
Pets in classic also didn’t have anywhere the importance they do now. They were purely a live DoT. Now they are required to cast multiple abilities and above all, generate resources for 2 out of 3 specs.
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So far, hunter specs are mostly unchanged from what they were in BfA. And Blizzard has stated that they wanted to stay away from massive reworks this time around. There are no reasons to expect Shadowlands will be massively different to what we have right now.
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Shadowlands will be a lot more like BFA than classic which is very far removed. So why do you bring up references from Classic?
The feedback on the dev forums consistently talks about the 6 sec rez and that’s people testing and playing… Shadowlands.
Also correct, becaues they moved a portion of your damage and utility into the pet, but that is not an excuse for basically being a melee class with both a 40 yard range melee attack and the ability to also attack at greater distances and around pillars.
There has to be some kind of trade off, and that in the case of hunters is pet management. Keep it alive or pay the price, and here is a place where I fully agree with the way blizzard is handling it.
And that’s exactly what people are asking? Give us the tools to keep it alive? Because they are inexistant at the moment.
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so you dont have the ability to recall your pet too you?
do you not have med pet in Shadow lands? i dont know I have not yet tested the hunter in SL YET.