Usually an elite isn’t meant to be soloed
Torghast on testing, you are undergeared in it, you are starting at X floor without specifc tools.
There are more ways then just letting pet auto growl to kill big mobs.
We’ve been over this. In this very thread, in fact.
Elites ARE in fact meant to be soloed. They are difficult, and they are intended to be. Generally you need to make use of your full toolkit, including a pet, DR cooldowns, Warriors kiting so they can regen from Second Wind, etc. These elites provide a challenge to a solo player (assuming they aren’t overgeared), but they are completely trivialized by a group.
I’m not talking about world boss class elites with 15+ million health. I’m talking about basic elites with more like 1.5 million health.
This guy is such a troll lol. You dont need to experience arena in shadowlands when there going to be the SAME maps and melee havent had any changes to mobility. In fact the opposite, anyone with venthyr with also have a teleport.
This isnt creating new counter play or aspects… it’s going in an opposite direction where you kill the pet and auto win.
Like legitimately I read a lot of dumb things on this forum but your denial is next level bud.
Anyone with a different opinion than you is a troll, what a fun life to have. Well, enjoy your game !
Nah I discuss with people all the time. But your clearly lacking experience and knowledge. Not everything has to be tested to have an understanding when it’s taken to a stupid extreme.
You’ve been given plenty of explanation and clear reasoning and defiantly telling others with experience how they cant understand something that anyone with a brain can see clear as day. But you have a nice day too.
The game will evolve Mr Troll, it has to in order to survive. As with any changes, comes the whiners, those that dont care, and some looking at the positive stuff from it.
Of course it will evolve. But this isn’t evolution, it’s actually more like a cancer spreading through the organism threatening it’s own existence.
Sorry, are only positive opinions allowed now? When a blatantly bad move that risks the entire viability of a class already with low representation is in the balance?
The only troll here is you. “LOLZ HEAL THE PET”…Okay, heal it. I’ll LoS if you don’t attack then dampening will stack and I’ll gib your pet. Because again, YOU DON’T GET IT, all I need to do is kill the pet and it’s GG. That’s not introducing new and interesting strategies and counter play. Really seems your completely clueless on PVP or have an agenda. Where did the BM hunter touch you at the start of the xpac? Lol.
There’s much better way to improve importance of pet management and reintroduce the concept of pet healing without breaking the class. Newsflash we played arena with 4 second rez, we do have experience. 6 seconds in modern wow will not work in pvp.
Just stop the chilling while acting like anyone with a negative opinion on something is somehow a whiner. Only the braindead find this good, not because it doesn’t agree with me but because that’s just how awful of a change this is.
Nobody is arguing the game won’t evolve.
It will likely evolve by making it more difficult to solo or do group content where it is hard to keep a pet alive. That will likely result in less people doing those things on a Hunter, particularly an SV or BM Hunter, because it will be harder and less fun with no upside. That will likely result in people leaving the class for other classes or specs that aren’t (as) reliant on pets to do that content, not doing that content at all, or leaving the game because they can no longer have fun doing the things they used to like doing.
Yea ok, you completely ignored everything and continued.
You’re the only one ignoring blatant information at this point. So no, not going to be nice while your trolling a class on a subject that could literally break the game for them in pvp.
Of course, literally every hunter here knows your full of it. It’s just sad to see such paltry attempts to make it sound like an improvement when it’s devolving to classic levels for no reason. There was no need for such a long increase, as stated before the same goal from what your talking about would be reached with 3.5 seconds. At 6 seconds killing pet is auto win condition and pets don’t have the defensive CDs of a player. They will train the pet in front of you. Get a clue.
There it is, guys: “It’s only Alpha!!!”. This certainly worked out every other time, right?
You heard it here first, folks. Pet res needs to be 6 seconds or else the game won’t survive!
REVIVE CAN’T BE 6 SECONDS!
Are you all still responding to this troll?
That empty can is an obvious troll with an agenda to keep hunters down.
6 secs is a stupid idea
Every expansion lol
It’s Meme level
They said that crap during the BFA alpha…and beta.
And the trash that needed changed didnt get changed.
I remember them on the forums practically begging blizzard to change something and we got stuck with it anyway.
and look at the hate BFA has gotten.
I dont remember seeing this much malice directed at Legion when I read in here. WoD maybe.
A 6 second cast time for a hunters pet, LMAO.
Lets just allow a paladins sword to die and force HIM to take 6 SECONDS to get it back.
Good god…who comes up with this laughable crap.
this change will destroy SV and cripple BM.
Obviously MM wont notice thanks to Lone Wolf
Im the scientific in a crowd of religious people back in the old days.
The guy that thinks differently and seen other possibilities with a change and doing so gets you hated by everyone else not thinking like that.
I see the good plays that it can bring to the game with, making it more interesting… IF they make some other adjustment to it. I can see the thinking behind this change, but like said it needs some specific changes behind to make it work.
So instead of hating to hate on me because I think different, why not bring suggestion in the “Feedback” section to make it work.
This was the copypasta I originally had prepared when I read this thread weeks back:
The Revive Pet thing really struck a nerve with me. I never asked for a petless Marks to be the only viable Hunter spec in PvP, again arguing that there’s going to be such a thing. I don’t think I need to spell out the ramifications of a 6 second cast. If that’s the way it’s going to be, the best compromise would be to give the hunter a 6 second timer debuff that allows the resurrection of a pet without hardcasting after pressing the hotkey, which would naturally be an instant and preferably OFF THE GCD. That way, the hunter can patiently wait for the pet to come back while attending to other actions. But I still don’t like it, because…
Any savvy PvPer is going to do all they can to suppress a SV or BM without their pet. 6 seconds is plenty of time to incap, diso, silence, kback, or stun after some hearty damage globals, and if the hunter changes plans, he has to fight you with a DPS penalty. Not to mention that pets do less damage to players in PvP. So all in all, the dark times are the darkest for such specs.
This class as a whole suffered enough in competitive representation. I think two expansions has been enough purgatory, Blizzard, before casting your judgment on whether Hunters should be allowed in Heaven or in Hell.
Doubtless I was angry. And I speak as a warlock main who settled for that because it was the closest thing to D2/D3’s Necromancer. Regardless of my own preferences, pets are important. And while I offered a compromise, I’m frankly sick of entertaining compromises. LWMM may be the way I like to play the most, but I would never ask Blizzard to pigeonhole everyone into this spec build.
I haven’t even really entirely disagreed with you, I just still have yet to get an answer as to why it’s good that it’s only a flat nerf to a higher revive cast time. It’d possibly be fine if more was added to the hunter class to mitigate the loss but also make sure players pay more attention to their companions, but there’s nothing like that.
I also have to sadly agree with some of the people on the comments of healing. While it’s fair to say healers should maybe heal pets even if I disagree with that, why would they take a hunter over any other class if they have to waste more cooldowns on you alone just because of your class mechanic?
So again I’m not even really disagreeing, I just don’t understand.