Nah, normal dungeon gear is 593 with no upgrade path.
Explorer is 597 - 619 (not present in dungeons)
Adventurer is 610 - 632 and drops in heroic (at 4/8 upgrades, or 619)
Champion is 636 - 658 drops in mythic
I dunno. Feels like there’s room for normal dungeons to drop explorer track gear. If they farm 619 gear after weeks of grinding story-level content, so what? Anyone who cares about gear will be 630-660 or whatever.
Or just lower requirements to queue heroic. That’s probably easier.
I did a similar post
It just feels bad…no reason the requirement for Heroics is so high. I didn’t even bother with them in season 1. By time you can go into them, you lost motivation and don’t even care anymore
dont worry theyll fix the problem by deleting heorics in midnight.
There’s a big difference between gear progressing being time throttled vs having literally no direct connection between the 1st level of dungeon content (normal) to the next (heroic). That’s just bad design.
Normal dungeon gear not having an upgrade track and the ilevel cap from fully gearing through normal not being high enough to do the next level up of dungeons means there is no actual reason for normal dungeons to exist in the game.
I’d say just start off with quest, new zone gives pretty decent item lvl.
It’s all bad design
Doesn’t feel great to have to do the same line of quests over and over and over and over as the only real path to go from siren isle to heroic dungeons on alts. :\
What is the point of doing a normal dungeon at all… the normal dungeon gear is a waste of time since it can’t be upgraded and you will never be able to do heroics… I have played this game over the years and I can personally say I have never seen this before. I enjoy grinding dungeons and getting my gear and getting good at the various dungeons before ever stepping into a heroic… so now I have to find a new way to gear and truthfully I’m not 100% sure the best way to reach 606 … any tips
Since we’re in a mid patch. Easiest thing is to do the 1st set of catch up content. So Siren Isle’s, or just craft a set of starter blue gear. The Isle is probably the better option since you need to get your ring anyway. Do some of the World objectives for the Pinnacle caches, since the first couple give Champ epics.
You can also go run some Horrific Visions after grabbing and upgrading your ring (they’ve remived the Ring upgrade timegate entirely so you can get it up to 658 in like 30m-1h). Visions, like the Isle, are probably a decent idea either way to get your helm enchant.
So, Buy all slots from auction house uncommon 597.
The only useful thing from sirens isle is the ring.
Do the Nightfall Event that occurs on the hour and the 3 daily quests to get a champion weapon and a few vetern lvl items.
Next turn on Warmode and do the Sparks of War Weekly and collect as many blood tokens as you can (each WQ awards 100) buy 4/8 vet gear. (Done this many times and have no run into any players that want a fight)
Do one or two delves to get your trinkets/rings. Congrats, heroics are now obsolete. Create a Mythic group and have fun.
Honestly with Pinnacle caches from 1-2 hours of activity you don’t even need to do anything in War Mode.
And No Mask full clear Visions can be done in literal full green gear.
The truth is, nobody cares about dungeons outside of Mythic.
They should just remove Normal and Heroic — they serve no real purpose.
Mythic should be added to the Dungeon Finder as a random queue option.
Heya I just got a character to 80 yesterday and pretty much went through the full gearing process.
Here’s my order of operations:
Now was sitting around ~620 ilvl.
20 hours played. 9 levelling, 11 going hard. Nothing but open world, LFR and delves touched.
660 ilvl! https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/thaurissan/envi/
Yea gearing is insane right now.
I leveled my dh a few weeks back. Within 2 days of her hitting 80, she was 630s.
Nightfalls are huge and it feels like it rains crests and stones to upgrade.
And I got that ilvl without delves too. I did run 1, but a garbo trinket dropped I didn’t use. Sad too because I ran an 11.
Absolutely! I figure it’s possible to go as far as nearly 7-8 681s but it’d cost my soul to do it via exchange. xD
Oh lord yea no thanks haha! I’d love to maintain my sanity 
I mean if it was 10+ years ago… I was doing that unfortunately. But no no no… we are a responsible adult now… sometimes.
Right? ;-; working over a holiday tomorrow too. Am i a responsible adult? Only as a show 
Imagine working a holiday instead of playing wow… Can’t be both of us!
We are adulting… yay 
Im jealous you got so geared on elk. I barely have energy to login and do my weeklies these days lol.
On Elk I’m one of 3 players in Depraved Intent who does tank and DPS so we end up being hot assets. xD
Dang you have more patience than me lol.
I was gearing up my dh to do the tanking and let quiver be my dps hard carry as usual
But finding the motivation to start grinding up keys… oof. So I applaud you doing both.