Whats the point of normal dungeons if they drop ilvl 593, but I need 606 ilvl to do heroics? I take it I’m just forced to do things like world quests? Kind of annoying if thats the standard nowadays, I kind of just liked the mind off queue normal > heroic > mythic.
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I agree with you, normal dungeons should drop ≥597 like the AH greens, or at least be upgradable with valorstones.
It’s still a thing that you can’t progress naturally from normal dungeons to heroic dungeons without getting gear from outside of dungeons? I think that’s still lame and it’ll be lame for however long that’s true.
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apparently so, I wanted to check out this patch, I think I just have to interact with stuff like Delves that I have no interest in.
They want you to basically upgrade those items then grind heroic and reagents to upgrade heroic gear ,and so on.
A mix of activities will provide the best outcome.
OP, you can upgrade your gear.
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Unfortunately, normal dungeon gear is one rank too low to be upgradable (it is 593, explorer 1/8 is 597) and it cannot be upgraded past 593. I think they should move it to 606 as the best gear this patch is 678. (Analogous to making normal dungeons drop 567 ilvl last patch). Or, at least 597 so it can be upgraded.
gasp you’re right, normal dungeon doesn’t upgrade.
If you’re up to it, PVP honor gear is 597 and conquest 632.
Looks like they want you to do Delves/world quests after normal dungeons.
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The pvp gear is a great idea! I forgot that upgrades and I will keep this in mind for my alts. I wish normal dungeon gear was upgradable too.
Since heroic gear is on the adventurer track, I really don’t see why the explorer track can’t be used for normal dungeon loot instead of having it exist outside of the upgrade system completely.
Honor gear upgrades up to 619, Epic Battlegrounds are decent honor farm.
They are pushing Delves
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Yeah, seems pretty silly to me.
I could list off all kinds of things to do to get the gear to queue for Heroics like others, but I understand the desire to just run dungeons and have it naturally progress in its own path.
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basically no you cant anymore.
Can the gear you got at 593 be upgraded with Valorstones?
delves are by far the quickest and easiest way to boost ilvls
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i think id rather not play than be forced to play this boring content.
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Who was the simple minded backbirth that thought that was a good idea? I was going to log back in, but I reckon I can wait until they fix this garbage.
Semper Fi! 
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you do you bro
Gear progression is time throttled in one form or another at every level of gameplay now.
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And the first 2 Pinnacle Caches of the Week.