Retribution Paladins Are Currently the Top DPS in Raids

It’s not just dmg and defensives, there’s also CC and mobility.

Good thing they’re getting nerfed again tomorrow, ye?

Ret died more than most because they were melee with on the GCD defensives and mobility, you can’t dodge crap if your mobility is on the gcd.
That was fixed for mobility(horse off gcd now), also as a plate class, it was the only one without extra stamina, DK’s and Warrs have it since Alpha/Beta.

Hunters are a ranged class (sans Survival) so they’re not in as much danger as a melee is generally.
Statistically ret was among the top ones which died the most… a melee plate wearing and with healing spec, being made of glass, was nonsensical.

P.S. I don’t see any point to this thread, it’s just idiotic whining, there are nerfs incoming tomorrow. Give it a rest @OP.

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Someone has to be #1. What gets me is that BM is bottom half and yet they are still nerfing us…

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I mean I wanna make it pretty clear that looking at ptr testing BM hunter was all over the top 5 in aberrus.

I know hunters on the forums may not like this fact, but most of the fights are ST next tier. Where BM shines. And even in PTR testing, they were top 5 on nearly every fight that was tested. Do I think it needed a 3% nerf? No. But do I still think they will be top 5? Yes.

That’s wats up

Ret’s got brez, the new aura thats bonkers, blessings, cleanse, best immunity in the game, serviceable offheals (not counting LoH), it had great burst but now its got top damage with basically no ramp up and almost whackamole rotation…

I agree, buff ret.

I’ve mained ret since LK.

We rarely get a chance to shine. In a patch or two, we’ll be knocked back down to mediocrity again.

It’s just how the cycle of ret works.

In the end, I’ll still main ret even after they inevitably nerf us.

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And? So? So if Paladin should not be top dps who should be? And does this mean the next top dps should have nerfs imcoming? Beyond idiotic.

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Well, I know that it shouldn’t be a class that can replace healers in end game content, be a class that is the top of the bracket for Solo Shuffle, or can’t join other tanks as DPS in Solo Shuffle due to being too OP. A hybrid jack of all trades shouldn’t be #1 and shift the meta in the same season due to a rework that was only supposed to address the talent tree and button bloat.

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It kind of feels like you are insinuating ret pallies are somehow not worthy of being high dps like a rogue, warlock of hunter is. That’s kind of weird. Somebody has to be on top and everyone should have their day in the sun.

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You mean higher

No there is no more hybrid tax. Pallys get to be on top for a while. Big whoop. I dont play one but good for them. Now what does need a heavy nerf is death knights

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Ret is a spec that is for dpsing, it’s not replacing healers in high end content.
Ret is dpsing in raids, got it?

What an absolute dumb take.

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Because warriors no longer being S tier for tanking and now below Paladins as well for Solo Shuffle and DPS meters in Raids so warrants more Warrior nerfs after the handful and stealth nerfs they received the beginning of the expansion right :roll_eyes:

I was joking. Meant death knights but I dont even mean that

Oh no, lets not resort to name calling now.

I didn’t name call you, i said your take was dumb. Even smart people have dumb takes, don’t worry, you’ll survive.

P.S. Those ret pallies up top there, if they use their heals, they’re not on top anymore.
Using a gcd to heal, using Holy Power to heal, naturally lowers dps.

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Looking at your little chart though, I do notice a particular pure dps class with all 3 specs in the bottom half. Perhaps we should discuss buffs not nerfs.

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Ret doesn’t need further nerfs. For once in like the last 4 expansions ret is finally twords the top. I dont understand you ppl. UHDK was amazing in SL s1 all teir but no one complained. Same for multiple other specs, but soon as ret finally does good ppl complain. Its crazy.

You have 3 warlock specs and 2 rogue ones on that list ahead of like 80% of ppl. Maybe they should be getting a nerf? Or maybe, just maybe buff the underperformers?

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Even if your name calling is passive-aggressive, when a person is name-calling, they have abandoned intelligent conversation in favor of emotional outburst. You used a fallacy that uses emotionally loaded terms to influence an audience due to having no intellectual rebuttal. :rofl: So for this, welcome to the ignore list.

I gave my reasoning, you just chose to ignore it.
I also gave an appreciation to your take.

The fact that you say that’s name calling to divert from it, shows where you’re standing.

Imagine saying someone’s take was dumb is all it takes for them to place you on ignore. lmao

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