Retribution Paladin is top of the DPS charts over every other class and so is Protection Paladin

I’m not super concerned about any particular class being dominant for a time. I’m old enough to remember a ton of different classes being dominant at different points in time. The meta is constantly shifting and no king reigns forever. Today is Paladin’s time in the sun, tomorrow it may be someone else. If their dominance is too great compared to other classes then Blizzard will nerf it. Business as usual.

I never really concern myself too much with the meta. I’m going to perform well as Feral within my own environment in my guild regardless. No matter how the meta shifts, it’s never stopped me from being one of the most valuable members of my raid team. Having your class be in a good spot is nice, but player skill has always been the most influential part of your contributions to your group no matter what you play. So I choose to focus that factor as unlike the meta, I have complete control over it and it won’t change season by season.

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You asked me for a tradeoff and I told you what it is. We’re lacking in aoe stops and our mobility is still on the lower end.

Aff was number 1 yesterday. Numbers are changing. Good try tho

Defensives rarely get touched in PvE so you can think whatever you want. Us surviving in raid and mplus is not an issue. This is a made up problem.

They’ll just nerf our damage and be done with it.

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Nah. Ragemode doesnt talk if his specs is on top. But he would be everywhere when he cant make his specs on top… while other players playing his specs were doing fine.

Nerf rets. Ty

I say paladin is fine where it’s at. Ret hasn’t had a single good expansion since WoTLK.
Let DF be their expansion.

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Everyone already knew this, but paladin players are trying to protect their overpowered class before the giga nerfs.

Me as BM:
“I will never financially recover from this.”

Honestly Id rather be more annoyed that the same specs have been at the bottom for the majority of the raid tier.

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In my mind, that’s kinda what class balance should be.
Bring the others up to the level of the decently performing specs, rather than lowering everyone down.

It’s a much better design philosophy, results in a more fun game.

PVE Community: "let them have their moment
PVP Community: “delete ret from the game entirely”

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Most balanced tier in years tbh.

Very well done Blizzard.

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That’s not really the best way to balance a game. While we certainly want every spec to be at around the same performance level, that level is determined by the difficulty of the end-game content, not by whoever happens to be the top spec.

Blizzard designs their content with a certain level of difficulty in mind. If one spec is performing such that it makes the content easier than Blizzard intended, then that spec should be brought down rather than bringing every other spec up to the same level and making the game as a whole trivial. It’s much easier to tune the single outlier than it is to tune every other spec and the buff dungeon/raid difficulty to compensate.

Ya i dont pvp so i cant relate but i hear about it lol.

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The internet has muddle my ability to sense sarcasm, you’re being serious right? It looks pretty even to me with the #1 spot only being around 10% “better” than the last spot. Makes me confident to really just pick a spec that I enjoy playing and jump into m+ if i wanted to

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I was being serious.

Ret is ninth actually top three are SV Hunter, BM Hunter, and AF Warlock. Sort by last week and damage to boss only.

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Sigh… looking at this data and being reminded that mage is the worst class in the game

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That’s why it results in a funner game if you design that way.
The game is only really fun when you’re blowing through content and feel like a god. This is why WoTLK and Legion pre-Ilvl scaling were so good.

Ilvl scaling is the worst cancer that has ever been inflicted on this game.

I love being middle of the pack. No expectations. Not automatically barred from groups.

Shoutout merphish