Retribution Paladin is top of the DPS charts over every other class and so is Protection Paladin

Top spot for DPS and Tank goes to Paladins now.

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Theyā€™re not that much over the ones just below them. Itā€™s fine. There is always someone at the top.

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Someone has to be.

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PvP wise they are disgusting. Kinda saddening how much of a PvP exodus it has caused.

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Wait till may 2nd, weā€™ll be at the bottom again.

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Itā€™s very nice to see, ret has been bottom of the barrel for so long. The new build is wonderful to play too given we now have our burst windows every minute over every two minutes.

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Let them have a little fun. They have been dumpster for so long.

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lol yeah ret pallies are always on the sh*t list

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PvP has been second rate similar to pet battles for the game, blizzard seems more intent on focusing on PvE instead of PvP. It sucks thatā€™s itā€™s coming so soon but at least peeps will still have a solid month to finish pushing for glad, M+ title and CE.

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Oh, I was expecting this to be a Ragemode thread. Huh.

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This is the first time Ret has been top DPS in a tier since ICC I believe. The second Golden Age of Ret is upon us!

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Actually that looks like some of the better overall balancing that Iā€™ve seen out of Blizzardā€¦ amazing.

Oh now youā€™ve done itā€¦ youā€™ve said his name

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is it like beetlejuice?

RAGEMODE!
RAGEMODE!
RAGEMODE!

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:dracthyr_nervous_animated:

I donā€™t understand, are you asking WHY Holy Pally isnā€™t at the top too or what exactly is the reason for this? :thinking:

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Let the QQ flow

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And why are people using 95th percentile Mythic as some gauge for balance :rofl:

Leave my Ret Paladin alone, the spec finally makes me want to play ONE character because I FINALLY LIKE SOMETHING. And not play a few on rotation that I ā€˜ā€˜tolerateā€™ā€™.

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I called it before 10.7 that ret would be s tier and meta. Iā€™m so happy we are in a good place, ret is the only main Iā€™ve ever played since vanilla, left in bc and came back during bfa. Ret feels great to play.

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As others have said using 95th percentile ā€œsquishesā€ the variance and is unrealistic for assessing balance among specs. Hereā€™s the Mythic Raid stats for all percentiles. A mere 10.7% difference between the top spec and the bottom spec is arguably better than Blizzard usually achieves, but Iā€™ll still complain about balance until that best/worse delta is 5% or less; they still have work to do in Raid, M+, and PvP on balance to make all specs equally viable. Maybe some exception given for below-average specs that bring must-have utility like hero/lust and battle-rez.
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