Come on, people are so quick to mention the Nathanos self insert, and his connection to Sylvanas. And use that as an arguing point. I am honestly surprised when any thread about Nathanos does not mention it at this point.
But we are supposed to forget about the Alliance ones.
Over a decade of asking for undead pallies.
Over a decade of “no” from blizzard because lore says being infused with holy light as a paladin is, would cause them to instantly die.
2019- “blizz says yeah we totally can have undead infused with light”
Like breh, way to rub dirt into the playerbases face, foreal.
Not to put a point on it, but I would argue that there are at least some undead that would relish the opportunity for an OPTION. I have no doubt that there are at least a faction of them that would prefer to truly readopt their identities in life; or follow characters like Faol or Leonid’s ideologies. There are also likely plenty of Undead that have fully adopted the Forsaken identity and ideologies.
Just give Calia her own little faction of Undead, one built around that ideological identity rift … I don’t really see her being a problem (as long as Blizz ensures there are actual consequences and issues that come with being a Light created undead).
No, this is your head canon. So far Akson has probably brought up the best point in that the Horde doesn’t need another Alliance swayed character in the Horde to be indebted to the Alliance.
Everyone else seems to be throwing their personal speculation around like it’s fact.
She could very well create her own society similar to the Cult of Forgotten Shadow.
I just took the lore straight from the book and used it to admittedly, speculate her attitude. Yeah, I don’t think this one is being put in to be a world quest boss or something. Based on everything we know, every part of her is involved with the Forsaken in mind.
You mean the book that ends right when she’s raised and we get no additional information about her state of mind? Yeah, ok.
We have no idea what she even is.
The lore is whatever the game does. Everything else - all the fluff - is backfill.
I can’t wait until she is the Queen of Lordaeron and the Forsaken.
Lets see, we have,
Void elves
Tauren paladins
AU orcs
A dwarf made of solid diamond that is still somehow able to move
All fat people are classified as a different race of human
Rockets that are somehow able to remain stationary in the air
Lightforged orcs (haven’t shown up in game yet)
really, lightforged undead aren’t even the most lorebreaking thing in recent times.
Honestly, I don’t see Calia becoming the next Forsaken Racial leader. She’ll probably get some offshoot Undead AR (built around the ideologies of Faol and Leonid), and thats about it.
With how he’s being used in BfA (and due to one VERY important probable misconception he’s made that will likely backfire on him) … I’d guess Blightcaller is being built up to eventually get betrayed by (and then replace) Sylvanas as the Forsaken Racial Leader. I cannot fathom another reason for him to just be everywhere in this expansion on a functional level, if Blizz doesn’t intend for there to be a twist to happen with him. Voss is also likely being written becoming more entwined with the Forsaken finally, to also be built up as A future Forsaken leader.
What are the Alliance ones?
Most likely case because it’s felt like they’ve been leading her down the route since her introduction.
A good story is important, but I think some of you care a bit too much about every little detail.
The entire character of Vereesa Windrunner was created on the spot to be the love interest of Rhonin. A self insert of Richard Knaak.
These details are anchors which keep the story down to earth. (How can you take seriously a universe that doesn’t respect its own rules? A chaotic story = chaotic relationship with the story, = I don’t like this story anymore) Slowly, those anchors have been removed over time, but this is another one that we’ve encountered.
What did you think about the writing in Super Mario Brothers?
Guilty pleasure movie.
Mechanically, few characters represent what the Forsaken ARE better than Nathanos (and if not for his obsessive fixation on his queen, he might make for a pretty palatable … yet grumpy, Racial Leader for them). His personality has actually grown on me.
He WAS a champion and citizen of Lordaeron in life; he WAS actually betrayed by the Alliance; he HAS shown some level of investment in their future as a people (training Human/Forsaken Dark Rangers for example); and his temperament is very … Forsaken (a strange mix of anger, snark, and apathy). Voss in contrast is the living embodiment of the Forsaken Free Will ideology. There is no other Undead character that represents that principle better than her.
IMO … in a Forsaken world without Sylvanas … the BEST possible outcome for their leadership is a Nathanos’ who’s been betrayed enough by Sylvanas to finally break free of her (as she is the worst part of his character IMO); with HIS champion being Voss. With the two of them in tandem at the helm of the race, they’d be in pretty good shape … without ruining their racial fantasy.
I haven’t encountered it much, but I suppose you’re making a comparison to argue that a story in a video game is secondary. There are video games that pay more attention to the story than others, and when this is noticeable, it’s also noticeable when the quality degrades.
I agree with you. When he seemed slightly hesitant on launching the trebuchets at Teldrassil, it seemed like he broke a bit from the hivemind. Him taking the lead of the Forsaken wouldn’t even feel unnatural imo.
And how exactly does light conflict with undead?