Retcon Calia, reverse Lightforged nonsense

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Lore breaking?

Add it to the pile that’s been built over the last decade or so.

But blood elves are high elves. And void elves are blood elves. So you have gotten High elves that went trought a lot ok. No discrimination for people with purple skin.

She can’t be a Forsaken since she was never really “forsaken” by anyone. She got rushed off to Netherlight temple to get the Cadillac undead treatment and is openly embraced by everyone around her. She’s not, and never will be, a true member of the Forsaken.

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I get your point, however High Elves as a majority have distanced themselves from the Alliance in Warcraft 2, and Blood Elves have distanced themselves in Warcraft 3 before WoW, so there was development.

I’m still raw over WoD

haha. well yes but that’s not the high elves we wanted. see we are technically suppose to be selecting allied races, from amongst races who we ally with as a faction. so we really shoulda got alliance high elves as our void elves, but the devs had already painted themselves into a corner claiming there arent enough high elves left to be a playable race. had they not said that, the alliance high elves turning void, would’ve been the better solution for them (not for those who want normal high elves though)

just sayin’. they could’ve made our high elves into void elves, cause lore wise, this has always been important to the people who embrace the lore (which is the point of your thread). instead, they gave us blood elves. you cant make up the magnitude of disrespect in that. it was a big middle finger, blue with tentacles.

Anyone else see the irony of a BE paladin posting this?

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Which is what the forsaken are. That entire premise is what drives them to search for allies in the Horde when those who once where their people want nothing to with them.

Yes as the years moved on many in the forsaken found their purpose. Whether it be through their own ambitions or the words spoken by Sylvanas. As is with all people though, not everyone agrees or will see eye to eye.

The dead don’t own property but they want to let Calia run a system of government in Loredaeron?

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Calia is not undead.
She is like Gandalf from grey to white

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People who say this is bad writing haven’t been following the story at all, not the current BfA garbage but the actual books. This actually fits PERFECTLY with the story. Sylvanas just isnt cut out to lead, she never was. Calia is the rightful heir to lordaeron and as an undead, it makes sense. Even if it is lightforged.

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though i agree that this callia thing is weird, not sure i get it, i would like to point out, if you add ingredients to water that are flammable, water will appear to burn (although its just the flammable ingredient burning). perhaps its like that. she’s undead, incased in a protective bubble that has a light forged surface. maybe. heck if i know.

You’re not wrong, but she could have done this as an actual Undead and forced her to have internal conflict about a horrific curse that her brother propagated to nearly apocalyptic levels. Inner turmoil about undeath, inner turmoil about her twisted bloodline, and also inner turmoil about originally not wanting to have anything to do with being a ruler, then deciding she would, and immediately dying horribly for it.

That could have went extremely well!

But it didn’t

She’s a unique snowflake and everyone openly embraces her. This woman should have been put through the ringer and convinced us she was worth rooting for. But everything’s just handed to her, and I’m afraid they’ll just hand her either the Forsaken or, worse, a “Lightforged Undead” race.

I actually had to struggle to find an absurd oxymoron that would be on that level. Water, but with Fire wasn’t my best one.

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it might help to remember she’s arthas’ sister. yeah that cant be good. the actual lich queen incoming.

She’s not going to lead the Forsaken, she’s going to be the questionable representative of the Light, which is now a potential big bad force. She’ll be the opposite number of Xal’atath, who will be the Void’s character.

One will seem virtuous and on the up and up, but also domineering and zealous. The other will be more overtly sinister but also actually like our characters, and mortals. One will represent blind faith and safety, the other will be knowledge but with a price. “Do as I say and be what I want, and nothing will trouble you” versus “I’ll point you to what you want to know, but I’m not going to hold your hand.”

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Thanks, I hate it.

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I’m not overly fond of it either, it screams of the trend to try and mimic Game of Thrones, where there are no good guys (or so it’s claimed), in an attempt to be ‘deep’ and ‘subvert expectations’. But, we have the Void Lords now… and so we need an opposite number for them.

At least Xal’atath has a nice voice and a good sense of humour…

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I really liked when the Light and Void didn’t need hot babe mouthpieces for them, but remained intangible cosmic forces. And if what you guessed would happen actually came to pass, I’d be especially rubbed the wrong way by having a finger waved at me by the writers telling me what I should think about the Light and Void.

It’s depressing to me for a couple of reasons. Firstly, Calia could have been a breakout character for this game if they just cared to do so. Secondly, I’m worried that we’re going to get an Allied Race that is either “Forsaken, but yellow glowy” or “Humans, but with gray skin and Night Elf searchlight eyes”.

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You just wait, this is going to be the Horde’s ‘Get out of dismantling’ card. The Light is primarily an Alliance thing, and Anduin is super Light heavy. Calia will push for the unbelievers to be assimilated or destroyed, and there will be a breaking point akin to X’era trying to forcibly convert Illidan. We’ll get a ‘but if we were wrong about the light, maybe we’re wrong about the horde too! what have we become?!’ moment, and that will be the end of this faction war as there’s unity to fight the Light and the Void. Maybe they’ll toss in a corrupted Elune shtick to give night elves a last kick in the ribs.

And the writers will go “wHo CoUlD hAvE ExPeCtEd OuR SuBvErSiOn oF oUr OwN loRe?”

“Everyone, when you villain-batted Yrel to try and make the Iron Horde sympathetic.”

“wHaT a tWiSt!!!”

I haven’t been wrong about this sort of thing thus far…

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