still doesnt change the fact that people do go to the cinema to watch movies they dont want to see…
I saw phantom menace in the theater the day it came out… yeah about that. Nobody knew how bad it was.
No… you should go read the beta forums. That’s not what’s happening or why this is a bad idea. The entire premise is flawed.
No and please don’t insult other players, it’s rude. Never before have players been actively sabotaged from doing the content they want.
Actually by and large WoW does… this is the first time that it really hasn’t. Also avoid comparisons to single player game that have save points… WoW doesn’t. It’s an MMO and single player tropes don’t apply.
There is a difference between 20-30% difference (or more) based on a bad covenant choices and a 1% or less result from race. Class is a different issue and that falls to blizz. But you’d be surprised at how many people change class per patch.
Also… if a DM is a crappy DM… they aren’t a DM for very much longer… it’s their job to facilitate fun. Not just have a grand vision as an artist. That’s right… FUN comes first.
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This isn’t comparable to an artist. They aren’t creating something new. They’re altering current systems. A better comparison would be watching someone continuously strip wires away from a functioning mechanism while telling you that you have to earn those wires if you want to plug them back in. Once they’re all in it works, but the next expansion rolls around and they strip them away. They tell you that you once again have to earn the right to plug them back in.
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Agreed, but I would at least give them a chance to reduce this 20-30% based on covenants before taking the forks and torches to Irvine 
ah this is why i can’t understand what you’re trying to say
something about choices? i’m pretty sure the art team doesn’t have a say in gameplay decisions. and what’s this about not being able to do everything? you’ve been able to optimize for different kinds of content ever since patch 3.1 when they introduced dual spec. if you don’t, that’s been your choice.
you seem to misunderstand the role of criticism. you say “listen to the feedback” and then you offhandedly dismiss the most common feedback as “haters.” that’s not how feedback works my dude.
I still noticed you haven’t said what kind of content creator you are. 
So they actually can’t… the issue as I’ve brought up elsewhere is that the way things are designed mechanically it’s not a solvable issue. Thus they’ve created this problem for themselves. Numbers won’t fix bad mechanics, and fixing bad mechanics mid patch is literally what players are scared of and have been complaining about in regards to the class abilities (there are other much more serious issues in regards to conduits).
We’ll we will see on launch. The only way to balance this system, with the amount of different combinations available, would be to make the choices so insignificant so that it wouldn’t matter which ones you took. They really dug themselves into a hole if balance is what they actually want. I personally don’t think they care about balance as much as they claim in the responses by those who are strongly against covenants being tied to power. I think it’s just them trying to do damage control for this circus of “there actually wasn’t a functioning ripcord”.
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I still noticed you haven’t said what kind of content creator you are.
No I have Read carefuly my dear.
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Umm how are these your examples of art being more than just observational?
Hamilton is a play. It is art. I don’t pay to act out the play on their behalf.
Escape rooms are not art. An artist crafted the environment, but you pay for the experience not the style.
As an aside, the art team is the only one consistently praised every expansion, so it’s not like we’re piling on THOSE artists.
… Not the kind of response i was expecting from a content creator…
So you’re a video game content creator?
Not that it is relevant to the topic, but i said earlier that i’m a writer. On my personal time.
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Have you ever run a D&D game? Written a campaign? Just curious… because it’s very very different from writing a story.
That’s one hell of a generalization.
My point is that Video games are Interactive and observational. They provoke the same sort of response from movies and other such media, only they are interactive. It can look beautiful at times, and they are emotional at times. In the same way movies are Art, so is Video games.
How many times do we hear about that one death scene in Final Fantasy 7 on the Ps1 and how it makes them cry? Or how emotional RDR2 can be? Or how people took screenshots of the game because they think it’s so beautiful? or gush over the cinematics and artstyle in WoW? Or even inspired to make fan art? 
How is it not art if it inspires them to make art themselves of something they love?? That what Art does! It inspires people in addition to all of that. 
Ahh. Alright then.
I want to say i’m a bit of a writer myself… but my only qualification is WoW Forums. Ironically, my comments are often likened to “Novels” for a lot of people… 
I don’t really have much to say about the topic considering you didn’t specify too much on what you are talking about. (but for all intents and narwals, we will say you’re talking about the story aspect of WoW). So i only have a few comments here and there on this.
People can play any game for a variety of reasons. Whether it to play the game casually, play it hardcore or just look at the pretty graphics and so on.
When i was child, i heard their was a Scooby Doo movie, and i thought it would be cool. Turns out it kinda sucked.
Would i ever see that movie again? Nope. Did i think it was bad back then? No.
WoW never allowed you that. Not to mention skyrim has save files and such, so if you make a mistake (or if the game does 99% of the time), you can reload.
And too be fair, I don’t think Skyrim allows you to be a master of all the guilds (depending on which guild you’re talking about, but you said all) without cheating or modding the game either.
What is that suppose to mean?
Don’t listen to negative feedback and listen to only positive feedback, or don’t listen to unreasonable feedback? And if so, how do you define what’s unreasonable and what is reasonable?
Creators aren’t immune to consequences and choices. Nobody is.
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Who on earth would voluntarily play a game that wasn’t fun?
Ok I was a bit dramatic on that one You’re right Krexen, people do, some don’t, and most don’t care and don’t come here 
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You’ve heard of this thing called League of Legends, right?
Mostly kidding… mostly…
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Whole post feels unnecessary. I’m a content creator too, and I would never act like this. People are going to complain. It’s up to us as content creators to sift through actual feedback to take under consideration and people just complaining to complain.
Blizzard will be fine.
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Just to precise, this post is mainly against people who complain, insult, ask for players to lead action against Blizzard.
A lot of people are criticizing and disagreeing politely, intelligently, and respectfully. Now is the time to respect the fact that the final decision is in their hands.