Like any other raid items … You do the raid you have a chance to drop. Dont try to compare 2 different activities that aint related
I am talking about pure cosmetics.
Just like you are.
Yeah but once ou killed you thing or done the activities you move on and can do something else cause its a weekly reset. Here you cant. cause you have to wait at random time to make sure you get it if you miss like even 2sec you can miss the thing and have to wait another 3h.
Proof just happened right now. was writing here for few sec come back well mob is dead have to wait another 3h
And I have to spend time clearing a raid vs standing still. And I only get 1 chance a week. Where you dont.
I guess we both have our issues, eh? And its not a ploy to specifically target druids specifically.
You complaining about raid thing that been there for years… Donn act llike its the same. One you play the game to clear other you waste time and sit doing nothing. Thats not the same. Also your raid thing will be fixed next expact so
What raid thing will be fixed next expact?
Anyways, i see. This is just an irrational “woe is me” sorta thread. Carry on.
Any character will be able to unlock any type of weapon/armor for the collection. So you wont be time gated to 1week. Just depend how many character you have.
Dude you compared2 dfferent activies with 2 different drop chance. Think whatever but if you cant see the issue that not my problem. You compared siting 3h doing nothing and clearing an old raid as the same time wasted. While one has 100% chance to have your mobs there while the other doesnt
Yeah as it is now your only chance at killing them is to plant your butt in the ground and camp or be extremly lucky when just flying by. But we can all do something about it and help eachother, i just updated my announce rare addon to help others when they are up not that i have ever seen anyone else saying in chat if they are up but someone needs to be the first and maybe others will repay the favours the next time
Relax guys, there’s a discussion that can be share about both scenarios…
- This is the same thing that some players said about these long respawns, so I won’t use that argument. Because the idea of feedback is to change things that have been in a way but doesn’t work or provide a bad experience to the player.
Besides that, As I mentioned before rewards based on RNG have 2 components: Attempt ratio and Drop %. Besides that we can include the actual gameplay (the fun aspect) that should be priority.
Legacy raid cosmetics: Doesn’t provide too much content because these are really easy, there’s a drop % against a raid lockout, however; you can schedule your clears against your playtime for that week.
Rare Respawns: In the other hand, you depend if the rare has a daily lockout or not, if it respawns every 1-3 hours because sometimes isn’t a set respawn and you must wait in a spot wasting time.
Both scenarios have different issues depending on your perspective, the part that Blizzard should check if it provides good gameplay or its frustating to the player.
I´ve asked before and provided feedback regarding Legacy Raids, the solution by players is just doing an army of alts, more alts = more attempts, but since Blizzard is already moving for example transmog to be acquired by any class in the next expansion (acquire not usable), then you’ll be able to grind garrosh shoulders with cloth classes, Why Blizzard don’t change Legacy raids to be a 3 day lock out? or remove the lock out…So a player with a single character has the same amount of attempts compared to a player with 50 characters.
We can compare different reward paths in the game but you shouldn’t be fighting for who suffer the most, when the issue is Blizzard’s implementation.
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You first have to decice what is legacy and what not. Like does the last expact is legacy or nah. Cuase if you remove the weekly reset well player will farm gold like there is no tomorrow.
Me personally. If a rare has spawn time of 15-30 minutes I would leave the drop chance to rng. But if it’s around hour or two, I would have set the drop chance to 50% and over 3 hours 100%
That’s a time respect. But if I wanted more money form subs I would do like they do right now 
True but that was already fixed for some raids that the ratio between gold acquisition / time isn’t good at all for a raw gold farm, that’s a side issue that could be solved by lower sell prices for the gear and trash items. But that’s just 1 idea, there’s multiple, my poin these 2 things are different topics / issues but share some aspects about frustation, gameplay. At the end, We need more communication from Blizzard regarding rewards but it’s like a taboo topic for them and it’s like an hamster wheel / time sink used instead of focusing in a better gameplay.
I think the trading post already solve that issue, there’s a lot of players paying for the trading post, but I see your point. And Devs are already killing a lot of time sinks by adding Warbands transmog farm, you’ll acquire any transmog not matter your armor type.
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Because they realized that people are willing to buy currency for trading post. So they can offset that by removing some restrictions
“Once again blizzard is catering to the 1% if wow players rather than those of us casuals in then majority who can’t play the game all because we have responsibilities!!!”
proceeds to camp a rare for 6 hours straight for a cosmetic drop
lmao
Blizzard can streamline if they collectively feel it is in their best interest. I dont support nor deny the content of this thread.
It is up to you, me, us to respect our time. If you feel you wasted time… you did. Thats on you. Time is the one precious resource you can never get back. Use it wisely
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It isn’t that we want it to be handed to us, it is that spending 6+ hours camping them every day instead of making them purchasable for a currency or similar. If it was currency I could do my dailies and then log on to an alt. When it’s a long spawn timer rare (or in this case, 6) I have to sit and wait for it to spawn, which can take up to 2 hours EACH, while watching tv or playing a different game. It isn’t compelling gameplay. It doesn’t even really qualify as gameplay. Either the drop rate needs to be increased or the spawn timers need to be decreased if this is the method for these being obtained, so we can go do other things.
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You’re totally right and that’s the main reason why players should provide feedback as soon as possible, there’s player in this thread mocking OP because this post was done 1 day after the patch or 1 week…They don’t comprehend that OP found an issue for him and other players regarding their time investment.
At the end its our time and Blizzard has a record of changes that impacted the time of many collectors, for example.
I did almost 8000 attempt for the Sha mount, Blizzard had a bug with evoker and then the mount drop for every WB mount was increased, that was my decision, however; Devs created the grind that way and then changed it to a better RNG ratio. Or when from nowhere Devs decided to change parts of the Mechadone achievement in the middle of SL when few collectors already got the achievement without those changes.
So player feedback early as possible is really important, so we don’t see these kind of changes 1 year, 1 expansion later…because it’s not like I had to suffer this kind of treatment, therefore; other players should experience the same path.
Exactly, its important that’s why usually this kind of grind is just afk with an alert, meanwhile the player watch series or play other game…it doesn’t benefit WoW’s gameplay.
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I absolutely hate this. I have farmed the rares every day and still haven’t gotten a single mark. I feel like it’s a trap and a waste of time. Poor drop rates. Poor spawn times. It’s the worst part about the update. I would rather do anything else to get them.
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I’ve been watching this thread since I learned about the drops and I wanted to give my input. 
I don’t think it was til Thursday when I decided to begin really farming, I had killed some of the rares prior but wasn’t going after all of them initially, didn’t get any marks so nothing worth mentioning there.
I’ve been lucky in the sense that I have a friend who’s helped me out with this, so it’s not as painful, but it still kinda blows. It’s not the worst grind/farm by far no, but circling around different spawn points for rares that have a 2-3 hour spawn time and have the health pool of a thin wet napkin still sucks.
My friend was on another part of the map when Matriarch spawned, wasn’t all the way out but was mid-way I’d say, and it was killed before they even got there by people who blew all CDs and blasted, which is what most people tend to do when they see a rare. I too am guilty of this as well. 
Since I’ve begun farming I’ve been lucky enough to get 2 of the marks, the one from Matriarch and Cian, but that still leaves Mosa/Ristar/Moragh so I’ll still be circling around the map as Moragh is a bit far from Mosa & Ristar, and then there’s Talthonei.
Talthonei isn’t too bad if you’re in a farm group but it can still take some time for it to actually spawn, and even with its delay that one can easily be blown up as well. In the groups I’ve been in for Tal, I’ve usually only seen one drop for the entire raid, but that’s just been my personal experience.
Again, no this isn’t the worst farm there is out there but that doesn’t mean it sucks any less. Maybe I was getting used to how rares were handled in FR & ZC but these rares are my only real complaint this patch.
Now those rares absolutely had the problem of having too beefy of a health pool, but the one nice thing about them was they were shown on the map/had a message pop up when it was about to spawn, meaning I could do other things instead of mindlessly circling around the map waiting for my rare scanner to pop and hope nobodies blown their entire spell book to kill it before I can even land.
I was hoping Blizzard would find a nice middle ground, I don’t want rares to take forever to kill but I also don’t want to sit at different spawn points for a couple of hours everyday.
Do I need all these marks right away? No, It’s not like anyone’s making me and I’m not required to by any means, but I like them so I’m going to farm them, and I like doing it sooner rather than later personally, so I don’t really want to wait either.
I’m not asking for the drops to be handed to me immediately, I’m not asking for them to be 100% drop chances, and I’m not asking them to make their health pools god-like, but it would be nice to find that nice middle area where maybe they could act like ZC with a quick zone message and a delayed spawn, or just have a reduced spawn timer altogether.
Just because rares have acted this way before or have been considerably worse in the past, doesn’t make it any better.
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Another day, four of the rares + the World boss down, still at zero form drops.
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