Heroic: Keep pre-nerf difficulty for guilds that like a challenge. Add a legendary drop chance or other perks / Title / Achievement
Normal: keep 3.3.5 post nerf tuning for the casuals. They won’t all unsub when the going gets tough, like they did for SSC/TK 8/10 guilds
Would be cool for season of mastery Wrath, sure.
Very few that play Classic want a challenge.
Perfect. There’s loot-piñata Normal mode for them
But that doesn’t give them max rewards.
If you want a challenge, try toning down your min/max behavior, go in without practicing on the PTR, don’t read up on the fights beforehand, etc. etc.
Sunwell seems to have about a perfect blend of difficulty. Bad guilds can’t get past some boss fights, even with countless guides, videos, strategies telling them what to do.
You could argue that it’s too tough for casuals. It probably is. This mode would be Heroic. Nerfed sunwell would be a Normal mode, so the Dad’s can get a kill
People are already begging for Sunwell nerfs though. This isn’t 2008 – a lot of the player base not only feels entitled to killing the last boss, but entitled to killing the last boss on the hardest difficulty.
Again, perfect. You keep supporting my suggestion, even though you are attempting to refute it… (?)
Normal mode: nerfed content so casual guilds can achieve a raid clear.
I’m neither refuting nor supporting your argument. Please read my words carefully.
What you misunderstand is that is simply not good enough. Players nowadays, even those in casual guilds, feel entitled to clearing not only the hardest content, but the best rewards.
Any content in Classic that presents any sort of challenge at all is met with overwhelming demands for nerfs.
Just some of the many threads made asking for nerfs to content. So, my main point is, the Classic community overwhelmingly doesn’t care for difficult content. They want all content to be beatable through mediocre play, including heroic versions of raids.
Casual players squealing about nerfing content. The sun also rises in the East. Instead of these posts, they could just complete the raid the first time… on Normal mode.
Imagine, the forums would be free of the whining!
You might want to add the entire context to my post
“I’m having fun with my current guild at 4/6 1/4. I don’t care if it takes us 3 months to clear this tier. It’s still a lot of fun. But if the next phase comes out and it becomes like Kara … there’s no incentive for me to play. I can hang out in discord without a sub.”
I wasn’t asking for nerfs to anything.
Sorry but gatekeeping isn’t healthy for a games lifespan.
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