Reporting people that offend you is toxic

Not surprisingly, the people who are slinging these barbs aren’t very good, and they’re sore losers.

…Why are you assuming the people you were talking to were the ones reporting you? The report function hides the offending player’s messages, doesn’t it? So if they were chatting with you, that would suggest they weren’t reporting you.

It seems more plausible to me, given what you’ve told us, that you were reported by people who were sick of seeing politics in the chat. Probably alongside the people you were talking about. So if it’s any consolation, I suspect they may very well have gotten suspensions of their own.

I went to check the code of conduct just to see what if anything it says about politics, only to find that it actually has a very vague wording that could be used to justify any ban.

Behavior that intentionally detracts from others’ enjoyment (such as griefing, throwing, feeding, etc.) is unacceptable. We expect our players to treat each other with respect and promote an enjoyable environment. Acceptable behavior is determined by player reports and Blizzard’s decision, and violating these guidelines will result in account and gameplay restrictions.

While I could definitely understand why political slapfights in the chat might be perceived as creating a hostile/toxic environment, it isn’t lost to me that this isn’t a very transparent way of handling things.

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If that’s all you said and you’ve never had any other warning or suspension of any kind, I agree a 10 day suspension is wrong. Especially if you were talking in /General chat and not trade or LFG. I could understand some action being taken if you were technically off topic in one of those specific channels, but general is literally general chat.

My “friend” just got a 3 month ban for an entirely benign post oveturned on the 2nd appeal. I don’t think there is much consistency with how they enforce these things and often its probably just being rubber stamped after the report comes in

Eh, I hate to break it to you, but it is 100% automated. They don’t verify reports. It’s done by algorithm. You could get your guild to report a singular person and get them suspended if you felt like it.

I imagine its highly, but not completely automated

No human is involved in the process of suspending anyone unless it is permanent.

Citation needed

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Hoo boy. No wonder people don’t think there is a problem if you aren’t even aware of this.

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You’re telling a person who knows people who have successfully appealed their bans, meaning a GM reviewed it and decided to undo it, that the process is 100% automated with no GMs involved.

Either they’re lying or you are.

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peope are in general more pc and softer than they used to be, a bit of a turn off but its not enough not play. I still prefer communication to be like a halo 3 game, but that is what discord is for. I have come to the point I respond to absolutely no one through whispers unless a guildy or someone I know, I type nothing in bgs ever. Even the slightest thing like “play better” or “try doing this instead of what youre doing” can get you reported/mass reported and banned.

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What does the appeals process have to do with automatically getting suspended from a threshold of reports?

…What does the appeals process have to do with bans? They’re directly related. Part of the same system.

If you can appeal a false ban and possibly get the reporters punished for false reporting, that’s pretty good. Not perfect, but functional at least.

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There’s better ways to tell people That you need to improve Way better than just telling someone your trash at your class you could get a little bit more input OK you’re not pulling enough DPS.

Or why aren’t you doing XYNZ Just doing a blanket statement if calling them garbage isn’t encouraging them to improve if anything it’s just telling them yeah you’re garbage and you.

Shouldn’t even be playing this game essentially that’s not constructive feedback or criticism That is just pure toxicity I’m sorry.

The automated report system is not the appeals process. The appeals process while it is technically possible to get a human you often have to bother them with multiple appeals. Which really shouldn’t be necessary in the first place if the report system wasn’t automated.

Reporting someone and having them get suspended for not breaking rules isn’t even necessary false reporting. Which is why it is rather important that GMs should actually exist to be a final decision maker.

It’s nice that you’ve finally realized that people get suspended without breaking rules though and that the system is automated. Not sure why you are being a Blizzard apologist though. They aren’t infallible you know.

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It’s because my intuition is telling me that a lot of people are going to “claim” they were banned unfairly regardless of what the system is.

And that if people actually could just go around false reporting people and getting them banned without consequences, we’d probably see troll groups doing it and causing a MASSIVE storm of complaints.

My guess is that the reason that’s seemingly not happening is that Blizzard actually will slap them with bans in retaliation and they’d rather not lose their accounts.

I also recognize that attempting to moderate enormous amounts of people is incredibly difficult. Both the volume of requests and the scope of what must be monitored in order to do a ‘good job’ increase exponentially as the playerbase does. It effectively becomes impossible to do a good job past a certain point, which is part of why Facebook and Twitter will never not be awful. So I’m reluctant to go hard on Blizzard over this… specific issue.

they only started handing out 10 day suspensions for “toxicity” after the… press.

It’s been a thing before now, just more inconsistently done prior to now. People got 10 day bans back in the day for similar things that I’m hearing people be actioned for now. Source: My 2’s partner in Wrath OG had a hard time keeping his mouth shut in BG’s and raids.

its pathetically simple to catch a 10 day though… like i could sneeze at someone and BOOM… 10 days in the hole.

I can’t stand game administrators that cater to the perpetually offendable and weak willed.

Well the problem is that the whole system is automated so it won’t tell the difference between you using a racial slur vs. you just saying someone is trash lol

That’s the problem, I wish people were less sensitive and took their time with reports.

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