For you because you’re 64 and you don’t have that sort of mindset anymore. For a 14 year old who’s having fun, talking with other people that use that kind of language… you’re just the fun police.
This is a pretty common complaint.
What’s annoying is that you people were told that you were wrong, that you were shown that you are wrong, and that you continue to have a conversation about someone or something, while knowing full well that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
Well, not so much annoying, as incredibly pathetic. But, you do you.
It’s why on Disc Servers I run, EVERYBODY is PTT. If they MUST be Open Mic, I’ll set it up, manually. That way, Disc will have the list of who’s an Open Mic User, for me. I can easily take that away LOL
As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words, especially in a PvP setting. You can silence someone, but in PvP they can camp your corpse for however long. They can put you on KOS and just stalk you anywhere you go that isn’t a sanctuary zone. I think that’s what people try to do, is to go beyond the cessation of communication.
I almost never put people on ignore. When I was in genchat in GShire I had to put one person temporarily on ignore to say something I didn’t want him to see, so it’s usually a special situational strategy. And of course it’s not in my best interest to see someone get banned. People leaving the game left and right due to bans isn’t going to make my experience better.
I think another saying goes like: other people’s candles getting dimmer doesn’t make yours burn brighter.
First, you need to look up the 1st Amendment and learn when and where Free Speech applies. I’ll assure you, it doesn’t apply to chat in a video game or on privately owned forums. Blizzard’s sandbox, Blizzard’s rules.
No but most (not all) open mic users be having full on conversations with somebody outside of the Disc call that doesn’t involve me, and I want nothing to do with it. Or burping, eating/drinking, typing away, singing to themselves (horribly), etc. PTT or be quiet!
No, it isn’t a realistic punishment. Chat restrictions I could understand.
But, turning chat into bumper bowling because some peoples can’t understand why others can’t just act better, is so incredibly predictable and sad. It’s nanny state BS.
This is exactly right. Though, I don’t think they see it this way. They think they’re doing the yeoman’s work. Must keep the unwashed masses in line, or, they don’t talk like me and must punish.
Jackal you make a strong degree of sense, and there is much to agree with.
Awhile back I posted a thread asking people what they thought was the real reason PvP is dying in Wow. I know PvP is not the channel most players focus on, yet it is one last iota of enjoyment we can get out of the game. I chose the position that the Players participating in PvP were as much or more to blame for the population dwindling. Their toxicity has been distilled over years of repetitive play, and the having to be re-set each and every season contributes to the frustration. Many chose the position that game mechanics, gear, elitism, (everything else) was the culprit.
My point is this: I would rather see one player who is disruptive be removed from the environment, than the multiple players that leave due to the agitation generated by that one. I have seen it posted here many times, that people wouldn’t invite their friends to this game. I remember a time when I wanted to invite all of my friends here.
True. Look, we as a society can’t agree on most things, that is why the world is so perplexing as of today. This thread was started by someone who was reported for calling someone “MF” in in Trade chat. As you said above, the punishment should be mild for such infractions. It doesn’t get any milder than being reported. All of the rhetoric around us being unsafe, and going to be hurt, are based on getting…reported.
I am feeling this was a dose of drama because someone was embarrassed. I personally stay involved because I am retired and have a lot of time on my hands. That being said, None of this leaves my computer, and when I walk away, just as you have said, it really isn’t important.
We’re not all going to get along. I think it’s foolish that people who play WoW would think that everyone else has to be more alike than different of them. But I go this way and they go theirs, but that’s not what they want…
It has to be THEIR way. It has to be THEIR thing. Make no mistake there’s peer pressure involved, and I know we have enough 20-somethings. For those of us who are well in our 30’s, we don’t subscribe to peer pressure anymore. I got picked on for making WPvP my endgame of choice, spending 3-5 hours on a given night “ganking low levels and newbies” in SW City.
But there’s 3-5 hours spent running the same dungeon over and over, killing the same raid boss over and over, and depending on rating, playing against the same premade BG or Arena teams over and over.
This is the key thing. “I am a paying customer, I should get what I want.” doesn’t fly. Everyone elses $15 combined is way more important than your single one.
No, I don’t think that’s what they care about. I think it’s just bias and bigotry, just against different kinds of people. As to why they do it, I think most of this, if not all, is learned behaviors or maladjusted adults who simply don’t like certain behaviors.
Learned behaviors would be any person who is taught to flag based on social norms. For better or worse. This is problematic, but it’s also human nature.
The maladjusted adults, would flag or report because of outdated social norms, or because they’re simply upset at other people for any crazy reason. For example, an-obvious-child having fun in a video game? Well, they said something untoward, so now I stop their fun and bring them down to my level of unhappiness, therefor somehow increasing my own level of happiness.
Take Spiritbane for example. He insinuated that I liked to swear because I was a minority. Isn’t that incredibly backwards thinking? Yet, he’s the one that will go around flagging and reporting people, and obviously, he is the one with the issues.
Or, take Helsyvlan or Ahnohla for examples. Me stating that we might want to be more understanding gets a response of “why are you so upset?” Again, incredibly unrealistic, but there they are, saying those incredibly unrealistic things.
Read my comment above.
Also, I don’t spam threads, this is I think the second one that I’ve responded to since this became an issue. Again, this is another assumption on your part.
I don’t believe in using that kind of language. I keep profanity to the best minimum. It’s the principle that I don’t talk to people that way in RL. But if I was the one who was called that, reporting won’t do much. In RL I’ve been given profanities like that before. It sure takes me back to boot camp…
But I know this isn’t boot camp. This isn’t even a hierarchical structure(that’s where the guilds come in). The thing I would do is that I would just tune out without reporting. In RL an “outside person” was asking me to give him a ride in my car up a few blocks because he didn’t want to walk in the rain. I told him that it’s not raining at the moment and he could start walking. I had my share of being a pedestrian myself.
When he threatened me, telling me, “Why don’t you get the < > out of here?” I just blankly stared into him. I was angry, but I wanted to see what he was going. It turned out the threat was empty and I just left where I was leaving. So I don’t like it when people talk like that, because you don’t always know why they said it or what will follow next. But if I see it doesn’t pose a “clear and present danger” I’m cool to it.
Funny you mention social norms. I wonder if said social norms are actually making WoW a better game to play. I wonder if that’s producing good fruit for the community. I can perceive that the human nature is selfish and not looking at the bigger picture, the greater good.
“Yeah, if I report this guy and he gets the banhammer, I think my friends might want to come around and join me! We’ll find plenty of people I like that’ll come and do stuff,” said nobody ever.
