Removing LFD from Wrath and Restricting Dual Spec is a Bad Decision

Here’s my view on it and yes this is and I quote “MY OPINION” I believe that wrath in the beginning will start out fantastic no doubt even with the removal of Look for Dungeon but as time presses on once folks play it full do what they have to do they will leave and when the games population drops to a point it’ll be hard for folks unless your on a mega server to find groups to do content. I don’t agree with the removal of it but that’s just my 2 cent’s

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I don’t get it at all. I’m mostly a guild-only kind of 5man runner and with LFG I would just queue for the fun of it. It made it so easy to just login, knock out a dungeon or two, ezpz.

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I really think its one of those situations where we have a small minority of people complaining about one feature and the people that like it don’t have any reason to post because blizzard haven’t said anything about removing it, now they have said so, the forums are about to be filled 465,000 tons of “wtf” posts for the next 36 hours,

A similar thing happened with the vash nerfs, as soon as they were announced blizzard got triple fried until they stopped the nerf and said they’d release it in a month.

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Imagine boosts AND LFD
You would just boost and never touch northrend soil before you hit 80
And obviously they ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO INCLUDE A BOOST
Well that means LFD has to go
LMAO
What’s next? Dual spec not being considered “classic” enough and really spec changes should be 1000g to combat inflation.

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LFD was a convenience at first but it led to some awful experiences that traditional grouping never had. We were better off without it all along.

Oh maybe then they can just get rid of hardmodes altogether and make Ulduar just hard by default! Dual spec is anathema so that definitely has to go. Profession perks? You already HAVE your perk by being able to sell ore, you don’t need Stamina to go with it… out you go!

…such as?

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I’m happy to see LFD removed.

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I quit retail years ago. I’ll be quitting classic when my 6 month sub runs out. What’s the point in leveling ats in BC for wrath when I won’t play it. No RDF, I quit. There’s lots of other games to play

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LOL Imagine having all the data that blizz has access too and not realising WotLK was popular because of its accessability
The best xpac had the “easiest” first raid? Coincidence? I think not.
Ion can keep doing what he wants I guess, but no one can even say he designs good raids at this point. If you dont believe me:

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That is the most important thing about this whole stupidity and people don’t realize it. There’s no way for Blizzard to properly compensate for the removal of those bonuses for running dungeons via the dungeon finder and the only people pleased with that decision are those who wouldn’t even use it if it were implemented because they don’t want to get matched with “filthy casuals” or even worst, have to explain something to a new player, because that’s the type of “community” they claim needs preservation. Those players are already ahead of the wave that will come with WotLK and are so insecure that they want to prevent any possibility of casuals being able to raid because they live in the toxic mindset that you’re either sweaty or trash. They made the game into a second job and they will not suffer that others might have fun while they are “doing serious work”.

The reality is that LFD didn’t kill the wow community, the game slowly bled content creators, it became more and more unfair to new players through the vast disparity between experienced raiders and newcomers… not in skill or knowledge, but in wealth and party accessibility. The community slowly shifted and then died and so people started looking for reasons as to why that happened. It just so happened that LFD was implemented in WotLK and so it became the scapegoat by claiming “people didn’t travel the world anymore” when in fact… even in current classic TBC, the only people traveling the world are either leveling and/or making their way to a summoning stone so that the rest of the people can sit in town or side-grind while waiting for summons.

And as a reminder, WotLK was still the most played expension in WoW history. The decline actually started in Cata, not because of LFD, but because the game destroyed class identity related to the talent system. For returning players in Cata, the game didn’t feel like the old mmo they loved and even if the goal was to make it more accessible, mmos are still by nature more complex than shooters or platformers, so it could never achieve that goal of being “easy to learn” for those too lazy to learn in the first place. Add to that the community bleed and you have your answer why the game slowly “died”.

People claiming that LFD “killed” the wow community are committing a classic case of confirmation bias, looking for things that fit their predetermined conclusion rather than taking an objective look at the pieces and trying to reach a conclusion from them. And that’s for those who are still trying to thinking by themselves. The truth is that were it not for Asmongold making a video claiming that LFD killed the wow community, it probably would’ve remained a marginally insignificant amount of people who would’ve come to that biased conclusion.

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Im actually surprised by this move. I thought this would be a feature available upon the release of Wrath Classic. I dont know where theyre pulling their data from but I didnt see a widescale clamoring for it to be removed - seemed like most were in favor of it actually.

Its no big loss to myself personally but it was a Wrath feature so it makes little sense to remove it based solely on “community” feedback.

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This excuse always made me laugh back then, and after seeing how Classic turned into summon-fest between world buffs and so forth, the idea that LFD killed anything is just beyond laughable.

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What he said.

If memory serves, you’d get 2 emblems of triumph from your first random normal dungeon. You’d get 2 emblems of frost from your first random heroic. Then you’d get 2 more emblems of triumph for each subsequent random heroic.

So back in wrath I’d do maybe a dozen random dungeons a day. So without the dungeon finder rewards I’d be missing out on 2 emblems of frost, and 22 emblems of triumph. Each day.

They’ve got to compensate players in some way.

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People want RDF; people don’t want the exploits associated with RDF. It’s that simple

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What exploits?

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I’d argue that another issue with Cata was the insane heroic design that ruined the accessibility of the game that Wrath, and by extension LFD brought.

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As a tank, I look forward to banking off blizzards mistake.

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The decision to re-instate RFD into Wrath will be made I’d say by…Mid July.

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Yeah I feel the same way, but its pure profit until then - thanks blizzard

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