You don’t speak on behalf of blizzard and neither do GMs. The only way to know that for sure is if we get an official post in regards to it.
You’re right i dont. Report them and lets see what happens
You replied 15 seconds after I posted, you quote one small part without actually reading my post again, that’s exactly why your opinion in here continues to be based on completely wrong takes.
By this logic the bots aren’t botting according to blizzard. What great mental gymnastics Slicy I love seeing you jump through these hoops.
What did I say that you feel was incorrect?
You said you did not want to transfer, yes?
You also said you want world buffs removed for raids classic-wide, yes?
woot woot buzzphrase of the post! Think thats #5! Can we go for 6!?
Blizzard has always banned bots in waves
Why is Whineman locked for transfers?
Do you guys have queues on Tuesdays when everybody tries to log on 4-5 hours before raid to make sure they get their world buffs!?!
I don’t visit the forums often so I was hoping you could ‘Illuminate’ it for me.
(Lets see if you get both jokes - there are 2).
Yes blizzard bans bots in waves but they don’t go 8+ months without bans, there are stratholme bots that have been running since november, it’s abundantly clear they’re not paying attention atm and I’m sure there will be a bot banwave eventually, just like there may be actions taken against griefers.
Until you start reading what you’re replying to I’m not going to reply to you anymore.
From what I can see, the Alliance population of Kromcrush is actually quite stable. The issue appears to be that the Horde population has grown while the Alliance population has not.
You’re outnumbered 2-to-1 now, and that’s only going to get worse. If anything is going to drive Alliance away, it’s Horde being allowed to transfer there (if that is possible; I don’t know the current restrictions for all realms) and further imbalance the population.
Alliance aren’t going to leave because of world buff purging and such, and even if they would, the solution isn’t to REMOVE WORLD BUFFS, it’s for those people who don’t like PvP to go play on a PvE realm where they can’t lose their buffs.
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I wasn’t aware you’re involved in internal affairs from alliance kromcrush. It’s not like we’ve seen mass exodus twice before on NA alone.
Those issues are my personal gripes with it, but there have been many other issues related to world buffs that have been talked to death in this thread, there are clearly many people who support it and nitpicking the discussions to say you disagree with my personal interest doesn’t discredit any of the other reasons people have for not wanting them in raids.
There are a whole score of reasons people don’t want them in raids, and the people in this thread replying in support show that it’s clearly not just me. As do the people whispering me in game and messaging me on discord that they’re glad somebody’s speaking up about it that can’t just be dismissed as “lol bad kid that won’t get buffs”
e: which you even tried to pull on me.
Whitemane is currently layered, so no - we dont have queues currently. We did. We are the largest PvP realm in this region, and are locked as a result of these factors.
That said, transferring to whitemane wouldnt solve OPs problems, as he seems to take issue with the world buff dispel wars that are highly prevalent on this server and half the fun for many of us. Again, I believe he would be happiest on a PvE server where this simply isnt a possibility, period.
You can actually access server population data and draw the conclusions he has fairly easily at ironforge.pro:
https://ironforge.pro/server/Kromcrush/
Yes I’m well aware you can see the current population dynamics, but that doesn’t have anything to do with the internal talks of people leaving the servers. When mass exodus happens it’s talked about internally first.
Without world buffs, do you believe horde would no longer kill alliance raids and outnumber you while attempting to zone into BWL?
Absolutely not, I’m well aware there would be pvp but there’s a difference between organic pvp and the massive lagfest that is brm griefing.
I just engaged in some great pvp over the last hour in Azshara while waiting for azuregos. 50-60v.40 it was a great time, big part of why I play pvp servers and completely no lag, everybody got to play their characters.
It’s shocking to me that people try to compare BRM pvp to that.
I’m not; I can just see the population of raiders quite easily and notice it’s been hovering around 2400 active raiders a week for about 3 months, after slowly rising from about 1800 active raiders a week in the previous 3 month period.
I’m not denying the possibility of a mass exodus, but I don’t think that can be attributed to world buffs being purged or people being killed on their way to raid.
If it can be attributed to that, then those people need to go play on a PvE realm where that can’t happen. In either case, I don’t think removing world buffs is the solution.
There are clearly many people who support transmog, LFD, LFR, etc.
That doesn’t mean it should happen. You’ll need a better argument than an argument from popularity, not to mention such a faulty one.
You think the people responding to your thread is an appropriate sample size from which to draw conclusions about whether or not the game should be changed? Give me a break.
Certainly not but it’s enough to warrant discussion of it. The difference with Transmog, LFD, LFR is that none of them were in vanilla in any capacity. Raiding without world buffs was. Getting world buffs was something guilds did specifically for difficult fights and even then it was nowhere near the amount we see today.
It’s a really weird take to try to shut down any discussion just because you don’t personally agree with it.
Raiding with world buffs was, too, for that matter.
And guilds didn’t dual-wield tank with Fury/Prot.
Remove that, too, I guess?
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BRM has always been a pvp hot zone, even in vanilla. You can literally prevent a guild from raiding that night if you’re dedicated enough - on Whitemane, main tanks of competing opposite faction get kidnapped with sheeps and mind controls for ages. If you attempt to enter BRM without a group, you can expect to be ganked over and over, world buffs or not. Thats life in a highly contested raiding hot zone on a pvp server.
Funny you say that because what makes it as prevalent as it is IS the world buff meta, without it deep prot threat is actually not far off and in some cases mitigation gear is necessary because you’re lacking buffs like spirit of zandalar and DM stamina.
Yes I’m not denying that, the difference is the extent to which they’re being abused.
Yeah it absolutely will still happen, again it’s about the extent these things are happening. Without world buffs the massive 150-300 player groupings on the orb won’t happen it’ll be more organic BRM pvp. You can still kidnap a tank (although that actually is considered griefing if reported), you can still wipe a raid, you can still camp a raid none of that is an issue to me. And it’s a much lower stress environment for the people being slaughtered if they’re not also ruining their hope of a good raid night over it.
Yes it’s going to detract from the fun of griefing other players but I’m an adult now I don’t care to ruin other people’s nights and I’m kind of surprised to hear some people adamantly defending doing it. I’d be very interested to see how conversations like this change after corona blows over and people actually have to get back to work and other IRL responsibilities, the server populations die down etc…
Fury/Prot works just fine without world buffs.
Ignoring the fact that it’s not “abuse,” you’re saying Blizzard should change the game how you want rather than how other people want.
Why are you trying to use the state of the game back in vanilla as an argument for a change to the game that would not be accurate to how it was in vanilla?
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