dude noobs dont even play bgs while levelling, why would you? once you leech your pvp trink at level 10 you’re chilling until Lv70
I mean, there’s a reason players do WSG when they’re looking to inflate their kill numbers. The gear plays a much bigger role because so many players can focus on kills instead of the objective.
A lesser geared team (I’d say give or take 2 seasons worth of difference) can win AB/EotS a lot more often than WSG against players in BiS gear.
Anyone even going after their PvP trinket while leveling is probably BGing, or at least queueing. Any time I level a new toon, I try queueing constantly after hitting level 35. It was extremely rare a game popped before prepatch, and a lot of them were not full teams. With BGs giving xp, that would revitalize lowbie BGs, if players could actually enjoy the BGs without being stomped on constantly by twinks. Even the level 60 AVs on the DK were being determined by twinks.
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I mean…I would do BG’s as you level to get the lv 60 pvp gear so you would set for a good while leveling, same thing when reaching 70, then going into 80.
What is with the community always wanting to remove something? There is clearly a big community of people that like to twink their characters. Why try and ruin that for them? People usually only do it for the 19 or 29 bgs anyways. And it isn’t even every BG.
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No no no, we want to add back the exp off queue. Don’t twinks want to fight other twinks?
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the queue time for BG’s when you do that are astronomically long. You can easily sit in it for hours. That isn’t fun for anyone. Besides, twinks also can potentially help you win the BG even faster, which results in faster xp. So it isn’t bad
This is, again, trying to get something from original Wrath put back the way it should be.
Your definition of “big” might need looking at.
They would get to keep their community perfectly intact, and not have to deal with lowbies “ruining” their teams. Should be seen as a good thing, unless they’re only twinking to stomp lowbies.
Twinks exist up to 59 bracket. If you’d BG’d at all yourself while leveling, you should already know that.
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the 60 gear is very bad and people dont consider it worth getting imo (Not trying to argue with you, but trying to speculate why low level BGs are so dead)
I mean, aren’t you kinda contradicting yourself here a bit? You point out when I say that it is, “big” while also saying that I should take a look at this… Implying that I am somehow wrong about it. Which makes no sense. Because if this problem that we are talking about on here, is indeed, not a, “big” problem… Then what even is the point of this post? If it was not a big problem, then clearly you could easily go and do a BG and potentially not have to worry about a twink. But, considering that you are, to the point that you feel this should just be outright changed, would most definitely imply that this is a, “Big” issue. Which in turn, would mean, the community that enjoys twinking, would be a pretty sizeable community. So what you say there does not make sense. And also, I also said, “usually only do 19 and 29.” I didn’t say always. There are definitely way more people that choose to do 19 or 29 twink pvp.
I can tell you’re struggling given you’re critting on walls of text, so let me try and break it down simpler for you.
You claim the twinking community is large. I’m telling you, it’s really not. The twinking community needs to organize through Discord + forums in order to set up full twink games, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t small groups (as in less than 7-8 at a time) of twinks queueing during other times to try and catch non-twink lowbie games.
Just one twink on a sub-60 team can single handedly decide the outcome of a game. This also translates to “the team with more twinks wins.” Yes, that is a problem for anyone trying to cultivate a healthy PvP community.
19, yes. Sort of. While it’s easier to get to level 19, the gearing is much more strict, expensive, and time intensive. For reference, there are ~1000 users right now in the general twinking discord I’m in, and just over 400 in the level 49 twink discord.
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Why is it struggling when it’s just giving my own feedback? Seems anyone that tries challenging your output is instantly met with it being struggling.
You go into a full ramble on the first sentence rather than reading everything that was written. That is a struggle.
Atleast he replied to you, he completely ignored my post which catches him discrediting his own argument.
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all you did was respond with a emoji
so giving a constructive feedback on how I think the way I do, is just rambling? That to me is just you being disingenuous and not willing to see any other points other than your own
Because you claimed there was a big community of people twinking, then claimed they shouldn’t have a separate bracket as the queue times would be “astronomically long” which literally proves there isn’t a large community of twinks in the grand scheme.
It’s a small minority of people that destroy the game for the larger majority.
It only takes 1-2 twinks in a 10 man bg to completely decimate the other team, why should such few people hold that much power over so many other players enjoyment when it wasn’t even like this in OG wrath?
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it was like this in wrath though. People still twinked back then. They did it with heirlooms and stuff. Anyone that had no heirlooms was destroyed by those that did. How is that different then this?
if anything, It was worse back then. Heirlooms were super OP
I’ve played twinks since OG wrath, don’t try to pretend heirlooms are on any level an equivalent to a BiS twink.
Here’s a game from my twink DK back in the day, the game only lasted 16 minutes.
Now imagine if I could do this all do every day with my xp turned off and never level out of the bracket, 29 other players in that BG and I alone can destroy the gameplay for everyone.
Completely idiotic.
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