I mean, honestly, it sucks for the opposing team, but if you happen to be the one queing with the person that is constantly destroying the BG and winning in less than 20 minutes, that’s just going to level you fast. You can’t really complain about that. It’s back to what I said. Twinks suck if you’re against them, but it’s awesome if they’re on your side.
also, you’re fun to debate with. you’re not insultive
Also, I think it’s fair to point out, while, I don’t think it’ll die completely, it should get a lot better once wrath comes out. A lot of people are just waiting around for it to release. So I’m sure that’s why there’s a lot of twinks in the BG’s. Once people got more to do, I would think it would reduce quite a bit.
No, it wasn’t. Turning xp off put you into a separate queue. That is the entire point of the thread.
Twinking literally died because they could only face each other.
If you’re complaining about the couple of heirloom pieces, then you definitely never played with or against actual twinks.
You have demonstrated you have zero idea what you’re talking about. If you want to give constructive feedback, you should have some knowledge on the topic.
And you’re rambling because I’m presenting several points in my posts, while you go off on a singular point that you repeatedly misunderstand.
Again, someone with absolutely no knowledge on the topic at hand isn’t going to have relevant points. The majority of people advocating for twinks in this thread are either ignorant to the topic at hand (you) or just bringing typical toxicity to the thread.
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dude there’s no reason to even debate with you. The point someone starts insulting usually means they don’t know what they’re talking about anyways. Regardless, we both know blizz isn’t going to change it.
The old “I’m rubber your glue” tactic, huh? Fair, it’s about the level I’ve come to expect from the average WoW player.
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No.
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Correction, with twinks, low level BGs will be dead.
Wrath brought two major changes that combined would have made low level BGs amazing for anyone leveling. 1. XP and 2. queue from anywhere. Sadly, they did not implement the final key component: the separate queues.
It will be a great place for twinks to flex their massive gear advantage, and those that have XPon will suffer because of it.
RIP
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You are comparing 10 million sub wrath to 1 million sub classic? Apples and oranges.
This is true but the leveler participation was so low in tbc because of 58 boosting, mage boosting, and lack of incentive for them to queue, that it has been predominately twinks supporting queues from 19 to 59. The lack of participation from nontwinks was so impactful on the queue that 59 didn’t see games for most of the expansion and 49s had to schedule games.
Like sure fine, people that twink have done what they can to keep things going through vanilla and tbc with varying levels of leveler support, but now that levelers actually want to do these bgs because they can give xp (and because boosting got nuked by blizzard) twinks are suddenly an inconvenience? And it doesn’t matter that in the current state of classic twinks won’t be able to support themselves in more than 2 or 3 brackets at best? So easy for you people to say when there is nothing on the line, when you don’t have characters you have played for years that will be ruined.
Don’t pretend to have no personal responsibility here. If you wanted to be a dick and do this that is on you; don’t drag everyone down to your level. It’s within your control when you decide to farm levelers when there is no competition. And don’t pretend that this has the same impact on the reduced playerbase of classic as it did on the wrath playerbase 10X this size.
You act like you care now but you had no issue taking advantage then. How incredibly hypocritical.
And what bracket even is this? As a DK its 69, 70, or 79 but I really can’t tell. And weren’t DKs considered completely broken when they were released, not getting nerfed until later patches? Even after they were nerfed its still considered the best class in wrath. But these numbers lead me to believe this was some prenerf BS.
You have managed to hold onto that all the way from OG wrath? That’s actually impressive. I think I’ve replaced my PC twice since then. You must be so proud of this game you wanted to brag about later, lame.
So twinks get to struggle to keep queues alive, often failing, for the entirety of tbc and now that things will finally improve they should roll over and die, disappear? Because now they are in your way of precious xp and they don’t deserve good queue times? The xp and honor from bgs at low levels isn’t even good; so, instead of trying to cancel the entire twink community, do some dungeons and quests. Or participate in bgs and see how things go instead of being a defeatist snob.
Stop trying to bully twinks out of the game. We’re here, we’re geared, get used to it.
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As others have said, you can turn off XP, however the leg AND head enchants have been disabled in Wrath.
Yes we do, and in case you were unaware, there are twinks on BOTH sides of bg’s.
And twinks are bullying the rest of players out of the game.
How do you not see this?
Even one twink in an XPon BG, ruins the experience. 1 player makes the experience better worse for 19 others.
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Even one twink in an XPon BG, ruins the experience. 1 player makes the experience better worse for 19 others.
This is not a statement of fact.
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I feel like they were hastey on this. It should have been…
- PVP queue anywhere turned on
- Gauge PVP activity across the board
- Good amount of PVP going on in all brackets? Good! No? Step 4!
- Allow twinks to play with other PVPers, to lower queue times.
They went from 1 to 4 and I think that is the issue.
Yes, I know previously the lower brackets didn’t have a lot of activity, but with being able to queue for PVP anywhere, this arguement gets thrown out the window and needs looked at once more to see if changes needed made (thus, 1-4).
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Maybe it is, how would know? Or read it as my opinion.
This isn’t an academic journal, it’s the WoW forums…
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Even one twink in an XPon BG, ruins the experience. 1 player makes the experience better worse for 19 others.
This is not a statement of fact. Obfuscate all you want (which you will, because you’re lying).
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No, you don’t know that. Because if you did know that (which you dont), you’d know that during Level 60 Classic, BGs queues at all brackets were active 24/7. So if you knew that (which you dont), you wouldnt have made that statement (because you’d know it was false).
Twinks existed during Level 60 Classic. BGs were active.
Twinks existed during Level 70 Classic. BGs have been dead for the entirety of TBC.
Can you provide any explanation for why this would be? Other than “TWINKS KILLED BGS” (which flourished during Level 60 Classic).
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We are going to need a fact check here. No one can say anything on the WoW forums that could potentially just be someone’s opinion. We can’t have anyone being led astray here.
The way you talk to people, as if they are a child is just… yeah. But, on the topic at hand. People on forums, when they announced that twinks were being added back into the pool, were pointing out that queue times were already long.
I am talking about CURRENT queues, before XP was added, not in Classic, which you brought up for some odd reason. I guess to prove a point for something not relevant to this discussion. Moving on.
Yes? I’m not sure why this was brought up.
Yes, thank you for agreeing with my point about…
And last but not least…
Well, if we’re going to take wild guesses, could it be that people don’t like sitting in towns, not gaining XP, when they could be getting to max level in a game that people yell about “END GAME TRUE GAME”?
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Shoulder too. Seems that shoulder enchants only work 60+.
Head enchant is 50+.
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