Remove titanforging

Learn to read.

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LOL whatever! That was from a different post and I hadn’t read the whole thread yet.

The thing is there are multiple paths to gearing now and some people like it and others don’t.

Lastly, at this point in the raid tier being 400 is not a huge deal. On both of my casual heroic raiding characters im 414 and 413.

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Do you or anyone understand what a value is ,everyone has a different value place of an object or an subjectivity.A goal is a individual value mind set.if you say it devalues the raider than that goal isn’t being meant. But i’m sure they did.

Now ,if you mean it devalues the person as an insult because the gear wf/tf and the person see it and says ,“why,not me” then that there is a personal problem not a game problem.

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What are you talking about? did you not see my title? or the fact my armory page says Cutting edge?

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Which is why I have said over and over that it’s how I feel and how some others feel.

I have never once said “this is fact.”

I never meant that at all nor said so.

Nope not there.

TFW you don’t know how to use the armory :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Sadly Humanity you will have zero luck with these people. The same ones respond to similar threads and defend gear falling from the sky zealously. If you explain your experience level they simply put in mental earplugs.

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Lol,yeah,let rarely one in 100 yeah,and those complain about it going in finial to show their main.Sure,too late.

Why do you complain about it when you’re set ? or is this jealous spat? Maybe a power grab.

Oh,don’t answer I’m having a headache.good day.

My 425 socketed briny barnacle is very nice. I got it from the first time I ever tanked a key and plus one it… a 9 Motherload… (weekly chest afterwords)

If the system was so that titanforging can only occur from timed keys in M+… that wouldn’t be so bad. I don’t think I deserved a 425 from a 9 though, maybe for a timed higher key.

I’ve been playing since legion so sadly I know all too well that this TF piece might be forgotten about later on :frowning: I love using it for trying to be a damage dealing tank though, it adds some fun AOE. In PVP it’s really funny when the DoT effect pulls a rogue from stealth.

You can call it what you want, but trying to improve the game to provide meaning to challenging content is not a bad thing for this game.

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Have you seen 8.2? If not, you might not wanna look.

But…no thanks. We have plenty of threads where people are crying about the gear other people have that they don’t feel they deserve. If you want raid or die Classic will be out this summer. Bye!

Edit: Oh look at all these familiar faces! I’m so shocked!

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Never change GD :slight_smile:

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Nah that sort of rng is fine until you find something even if it has a lesser item level as long it fits the build and proper stats.

At this point I can just copy paste all the arguments we’ve had in other threads and then I can point at 8.2 and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and we can do this all over again before 8.3 launches. How’s that sound?

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In all honesty PvP players have the equivalent gear available through rating as raiders do from raiding.
There has always been imbalances, especially in wPvP, not everyone should be on a level playing field if they don’t put the effort it.

All of the content is available to everyone, it’s a personal choice whether they decide to do it or not.
Some people work, some people choose not to. I don’t believe those that choose not to should get the same benefits as those that do work.

There’s never been any such thing as this. :roll_eyes: And the paths to gearing existed well after Classic. Stop trying to use that as some form of excuse.

Gear equal to the content you do has gotten you through the content you want to do. To me and some others, gear should increase with difficulty. It should not randomly increase for saving ten turtle babies in two minutes.

A healthy amount of incentive to work towards something is always a good thing. I don’t believe that the future of this game is in a healthy state when we hand someone a heroic raid level piece of gear for AFKing in a Warfront.

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The whole thing is work,they work to get their gear their way and others work to get theirs another ,it’s all work value.Doesn’t matter the level or reward it all the same.Just one takes longer than the other.I have seen this in the work place time and time again the same played out right now.it’s all the same.

No. What we have right now is fine. If you can’t cope with the disparity being reasonable then perhaps you should try Classic when it comes out.

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Just because the game develops a certain way does not “prove” a point.

People can repeatedly make the same mistakes without learning, it doesn’t make it the correct way.

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Perhaps you need to need you have an actual argument instead of attempting to use some poor parroted response of “Classoc” being some end all be all solution. :roll_eyes:

These types of responses are inane and have no substance. Try having an actual conversation to help this game not some crap of “go play something else.”

Classic isn’t some happy shiny place. :roll_eyes:

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