Remove timers from M+

Community General Discussion
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What do you mean above what they can do, if you can clear a 15 you can clear a 15, can limit or method not clear raid cause it took them hundreds of attempts?

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The world first race, which what they participate in is literally who can do it first.
Its a race vs time.

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Sure you can clear a 15, but in how long?
And Method and limit get loot only once for their kill.

Once, for 400 attempts.

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I’m not saying give loot for every wipe and from what I’m hearing m+ isn’t even dropping that much loot so its not like you could farm it reliably for gear

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65

The challenge is the timer, so no.

66

Then what are the affixes

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67

You could if there was no timer, since you’d be going way above what you get right now. If you didn’t need to time, I’d be spamming +15 keys for 210 gear, but alas, I’m failing +13 +14 runs by <2 mins.

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I disagree OP, only because the timer encourages quicker finishes which means better time spent, in my opinion.

One thing I do dislike however, is when the timer still ticks over during travel animations where you can’t control the speed (looking at you, spires of ascension)

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Something that ensures you have to work to meet the timer.

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A challenge some might even call them

71

It’s not a challenge if you can save cooldowns for every one-pack pull.

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72

If anyone considers their time that meaningless do they not deserve a little happiness in what otherwise must be a terrible life.

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It’ll definitely lower the toxicity for sure, too.

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74

Heres the linch pin of the whole topic.

most people dont fear timer.
Most people HERE dont fear some pressure to complete.
Most people dont view all of this as a terrible life. its fun to challenge yourself.

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You don’t have to act like a cringe lord pretending to be scarecrow talking about fear like a crazy person no one here is talking about fear except you.

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76

K, and a +25 done in 25 mins will always be infinitely more impressive than a +25 done in 4 hours.

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Completely agree. And this mentality has spilled into heroic dungeon finder groups. Tanks running ahead of everyone grabbing a dozen mobs to aoe everything down. Ion was right about one thing - this is degenerate gameplay.

And I blame the timer.

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78

No, let’s not take away content that people enjoy doing. A better solution would be for Blizzard to offer an alternative version without the timer. Win win

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79

Do you always lash out when people focus in on your fears? Timers bad. ra ra

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Removing timers completely defeats the purpose of keys.