Im getting quite the paranoia personality vibe from you lol its a simple yes or no question
I don’t necessarily think this one needs to be removed but I would still supporting Blizz if they decided to block/remove it.
Why not just speak plainly and make your point? If you’ve got one make it.
How about you explain to me how someone using a quest helper impacts you?
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I and many others have done so throughout this entire topic. Feel free to read it.
Im guessing its because of immersion, which is subjective? It cant be because of advantage, otherwise we’d have to get rid of speed levelers, leveling guides, quest helpers, people who played from 2004-2006 and remember the quests, people whove played private servers for the last 10 years. It cant be the economy, cause those aforementioned groups would still have that effect on the economy with or without quest helper. So what is it?
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Again I plainly spelled out why I’m against Quest Helping addons in this topic, so if you’re that curious go read what I posted.
Ok, fair enough. I could care less about add-ons also. After I deleted Quest Helper, I never used another add on again until MoP. Got into a raiding guild & they convinced me to get Recount, then a little later they got me to download DBM. FINALLY, in Legion, I got GTFO. I’ve played around with other add-ons since then. Oh wait! I totally forgot about Healbot & Decursive. Yeah I tried those with the same success as Quest Helper. lmao Used them for a few dungeon runs then deleted them.
Anyway, I digress, I think people throwing a fit about a questing add on are kind of silly because all that info is right there on a website Blizz promotes. The only thing WOWHEAD doesn’t do is turn it in & auto accept it. That might be a little over the top there, but if it only affects that one person, why care! Will you be able to tell which people are using it & which aren’t just by observation? I highly doubt it. You will never know unless they tell you. So it doesn’t affect you (or other people). Where as LFG, I guess, does affect multiple people at the same time. I really don’t care if they don’t break LFG. I wasn’t going to use it, so it won’t affect me. Anyway, it’s late, I’m going to bed.
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So your first reason is that itll stop people from asking about quests in chat… Which is irrelevant because people who are willing to use a questhelper to avoid having to ask chat would just use the websites to find it out and wouldnt ask anyone anyway.
Secondly, you say itll stop people from reading quest text… If Blizzard honestly cared whether people were reading quest texts they wouldnt give you the option to have auto quest text and and a quest log that summarizes it but doesnt completely give it away.
Third, you say itll stop people from adventuring, which is hilariously not true. Whether you’re using a quest helper or not in an RPG once you’ve progressed through a zone your instinct is to fully explore it and complete it on the map. Find all the flight paths and move on to the next one. Those using questhelper to fast level wouldn’t have adventured the entire zones without it either.
Fourth , there is literally no power advantage or monetary benefit to using quest helper. Everyone can do the same quests and receive the same rewards/reward options. If your immersion is worth it for you to where the icons on the minimap would take away from YOUR experience then you could just not use one and thered be 0 experience lost for you.
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This seems like salty attack from people that got their addon actioned against by blizzard. Maybe I’m wrong but this topic sure gives me that vibe. Anyway, I don’t have any problems with quest addons. I use to use one called “Monkey Quest” back in vanilla and used Joana’s guides for leveling. This is stretching it a bit and getting comical to say the least.
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LOL!
Yikes, dude, you are all over the map.
Do you really have so much time and energy to worry about what other people do?
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I have no issues if they want to remove these. Tabbing into Thottbot was a memorable experience anyway.
There will always be the person who got to 60 first and the people who never made it to 60… The time between those two dont matter and you can control how much you enjoy it… Your real problem with quest helpers is that people arent playing the way you want them to. Which isn’t a legitimate reason to break quest helpers.
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^ THIS. Well done Kyraz. You said it better than anything I could’ve said without being as much of an a-hole as the OP
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Oh lmao, I had a typo in the post you were responding to.
Well that’s embarassing so I’ll crawl back into my skin now.
Sorry for the confusion >_<
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You and others who support the Quest Helping Addons keep saying this but have nothing to support it. You assume everyone will just alt-tab and look up the quest, but there is also a chance that some people rather than interrupting the game will instead opt to read the quest and use their brains and the world around them to figure out the quest and actually engage with the RPG aspect of the game. That’s a good thing!
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Blizzard may not care about quest text now (debatable) but they did back in Vanilla. Sure, not every quest was super memorable (this is true of all RPGs) but plenty of them were. Why allow a silly addon to make all that work that Blizz put into quest text irrelevant.
It’s like when you make a kid stop watching TV (Or I guess nowadays YT and Twtich) and read a good book, sure they might complain at first, but they also might really enjoy the book and reading too! Also a good thing!
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Yeah it’s kind of hard to become immersed and go on an adventure when you have no clue what is going on and you’re just mindlessly following waypoint after waypoint.
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Debatable. With a quest helper addon you’re going to level quicker than someone that takes their time and reads the quests and enjoys the game. In the early stages of the game this means that you’ll have quicker access to things like Devilsaur leather, black lotus, mining nodes, rare spawns etc.
This means that people who want to enjoy the quests have a choice - play the game as the developers intended and actually engage with the RPG or use a quest addon rush to 60 in order to have a shot at valuable resources before they become taken over by Mafias.
Sure. It’s an MMORPG what other people in the game do matters to me and everyone else. We’re all interconnected in both big and small ways, that’s part of being a community.
Don’t like it? Retail is that way.
Im assuming we are talking about people who are using questhelpers, theres a reason they are using questhelpers and if they are knowledgeable enough to find questhelpers its likely they know about the websites that give answers to quests. If people want to talk to you or anyone they will do so, with or without questhelper.
Because the only time its relevant is the first time you did the quest. Its not memorable after that. A lot if not most of the people playing classic (atleast right away) have done these quests many times. The quests and the text accompanying them are not new. This isn’t limited to just people using questhelper either. The people who have these quests memorized are not gonna be reading the quest text either.
You’re still a genre where the people playing it have a completionist persona the majority of the time. Especially in the vanilla where having all the flight paths in a zone are important because of how the flight paths connect then you’re gonna complete the zone with or without questhelper.
Speedlevelers and pserver players will be there much faster than the average person using a questhelper. Making this irrelevant.
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Again a total assumption on your part based on absolutely nothing. You assume that without a quest helper they’ll look up every quest, but without the convenience of a quest helper they may also just play the damn game. Alt-tabing or even just looking at a different monitor to check wowhead or whatever interrupts the gameplay and some may find it preferable to just read the quest and play the game instead. Quest Helpers remove the inconvenience of looking up a quest and make it so there is no choice when confronted with “OK I’m stuck, do I resort to looking it up, or can I solve this with what I’ve got in front of me?” Contrary to what you and others in this topic believe that is a meaningful choice and it is worth preserving.
That’s your opinion. Reading the quest again can still be enjoyable for the same reasons that rereading a good book or playing an RPG you’ve already beat can be enjoyable. You also assume everyone will complete every quest the first go which is pretty unlikely.
Sure, you’ll complete the zone, but that’s not an adventure. That’s just checking off items from a to do list. Reading the quests, understanding what’s going in the zone, why the characters are there and why YOU are there, that’s the adventure, that’s what gives meaning to the journey.
Not really. Speed Levelers and PServers will beat everyone to 60 true, but then following them will be the Quest Addon folks and then following them will the people who actually engaged with the RPG aspect of the game. Take away the quest helper addon and then it’s the speed levelers and then everyone else at 60. Not great, but still better.
Its not a total assumption based on absolutely nothing. You can take a look at everyone who disagrees with you and see them saying they would just alt tab and look it up… Some even said they’re gonna have their dual monitor up at all times even if they do use questhelper. Its not based on nothing, its common sense.
Sure, you can reread the quest if you want but theres no surprise there. You’ve already done it before. Rereading a good book is no different, just because youve read it before doesnt make it less good but it doesn’t make it more memorable the 2nd time around. With a questhelper you’re more likely to complete every quest on the first go in a zone because all the quests are indicated on the map. You’re more likely to miss quests without a questhelper than you are with one.
Not really. If you care about lore then understanding why you’re there is important. Lore isnt for everyone though and to each their own. If its important to you then don’t use one but at the same time dont force others to play the way you do.
The only people who really benefit from the resources early on are those who got there first because of lack of competition. If you have 1000 people who rushed or were on pservers in the first week and then 3 weeks later you got the questhelper group of 100,000 then it was only those 1000 that truly benefitted in the economy from the resources, and breaking quest helpers arent gonna stop those 1000.
Its not the players that use the addons fault that you think everyone who uses a questhelper just wants it to rush to 60. Thats far from the case… You who will not be using it will likely beat out a lot of people using questhelper.
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