ok kiddo. im done with you. have a nice life.
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Addon does not create a community pressure to install it, addon does not automate any function of the game, addon works the same as addons in Vanilla.
Nope, it’s not going away.
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I won’t be using add-ons either, I would prefer no add-ons for all as well, but I know it’s not happening. People who keep saying it are fighting a losing battle. As long as an add-on isn’t out there that affects more than the individual, I am perfectly fine with it to a rational extent (baring add-ons that might automate a piece of the game). I take Cursedd’s post as meaning he/she does not like add-ons and believes classic will be best without them. I am under the same belief, but I don’t want to push my belief onto others. Like people who will be farming dungeons 15-60 I think are not experiencing classic the way it should be, but it is their choice. Most of them will get bored and quit anyway.
That’s ridiculously dramatic.
Please explain to me how someone’s use of a Questing addon (or any third party information source) RUINS the game for the people they encounter. At best, it reduces the likelihood of them asking those people for information.
But finally, what do you plan to do? Even if you ban questing addons, anyone who was going to use them will alt-tab to one of the many wonderful online resources available to get their information. Removing the addon doesn’t do anything but inconvenience a small portion of the player base while doing nothing to address your overarching concerns.
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exactly what Traydrenna said.
the people speaking up about the LFG addon were hardly a minority.
quest helper and questie are fine. they just show all the quests and objectives which are no longer new or fresh to anyone. they don’t tell you what order to do these quests or design efficient questing routes for you. you can pay joana 5 bucks for that.
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And this is why we don’t go down the slippery slope, you get silly people like this.
Doesn’t discord do that to some extent?
Questing addons do not require others to have it to work . Find something else to cry about.
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And asking LF3M dps is new and fresh?
#NoAddons
#MyClassic
You guys are gloriously missing the entire point of my post and argument.
New add-ons are going to be created. It is the nature of the beast with the current state of gaming. Once the LFG has been let out of the box, it cannot be shelved. Players always find the path of least resistance if its available.
I’m not in favor of Blizzard breaking add-ons to cater to a specific crowd while completely ignoring other concerns. Especially when people are so dead-set on upholding standards that are close to the Classic experience.
There was an LFG-like tool in Vanilla. It didn’t gain popularity, but it could have. Quest helpers also existed, but existed near the end similar to the LFG-like tool. Quest helpers were popular because they offered the path of least resistance.
Questing assistance was not an original incarnation of WoW, and were likely adopted due to the popularity of add-ons like Carbonite. In-game questing assistance is PART OF THE REASON why retail is so much of an issue. Players are hand-held through the whole process of questing. It seems like the people in Classic are more Anti-LFG than Pro-Classic.
If we’re going to remove LFG because people think it will ruin the “community”, then why are we allowing questing helping add-ons to exist when asking for help was ALSO a part of the community.
Not everyone wants to alt tab or search or WoWhead for solutions, so they may ask other players in game. This is part of the experience.
If we’re going to accept that third-party websites are part of the game, then we’re also going to have to accept that these solutions can also cause greater problems.
Imagine if WoWhead decides to create an LFG third-party website? Or how about Discord?
Bam, you’re entire community is split and there’s nothing you can do about. Imagine if we get something similar to raiderio where you’re rated by players you group with.
I’d much rather Blizzard’s UI handle something like LFG where they can limit things, rather than a third-party website.
Also, for the people mentioning Discord, you do realize that there are players that don’t use Discord right? Doesn’t that also split the community from those that do and do not have Discord?
Or tab out to thottbot or khazam. Which was easier and didn’t involve trying to sort through the bunch of douchebags purposely telling you wrong information.
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because LFG addon required people to have to download it for it to work and if it became the go to for dungeons and raids then people would have no choice but to download it. The ones like questhelper or DBM does not require others to have it in order for it to work. This is the major reason blizz does not want addons that require the community to have it, as they said if this was the case they would have just left the one they made for retail to remain. The idea is if you want a mod that’s fine as long as it just concerns your playstyle and does not require others to have to get it or manipulates your character in a way that you do not have to be at the keyboard to control it.
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I support this!! Please remove questing addons!!!
The thing about this is that it doesn’t offer anything that isn’t already available in-game, and arguably the service it would offer is less efficient than that offered in-game.
If I go to Discord I still have to post “LFG UBRS”, and then I have to chat with the person to confirm my spec and in-game character before accepting the invite in-game.
If I go in-game then I just post “LFG UBRS” in a global LFG chat, I clarify if I’m healer or DPS, then I get invited right away.
The topic of third party things is also academic because it’s not like Blizzard can ban Wowhead or Discord.
Plus, a quest helper addon doesn’t have a significant negative impact on the community in my opinion like the LFG addon would have.
It purely affects personal experience which, while I recommend players who are new give it a go without an addon or looking things up unless you’re really stuck and can’t get help, that’s a decision to be made by each player for themselves.
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I disagree with this. There were quest helper addons in Vanilla
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This. Stop trying to dictate how players want to experience the game, if the addon doesn’t negatively effect others or the community then what reason do you have to be this upset over it? Just because you don’t like this addon doesn’t mean there should be a blanket wide ban on it.
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Exactly, the quest helper addons don’t destroy the community like LFG addons do. And if it’s for a quest that requires a group, you still gotta do the quest with a group
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If everything is already “known” then why do they need a quest helper? Hrmm?And for those saying a quest addon does not change the game for others, well, lets see here, if I know where to go due to the addon, I do not need to ask anyone where to go to complete my current quests. Now someone who does not know where to go, or what to do if they do not have a quest helper will…
wait for it…
Have to ask in chat… ask other people… be social… use the community around them, make friends!
I mean after all, we wanted classic because of the feeling of community, not “I don’t need anyones help!”
My opinion is a quest helper takes away from the community, removes the need to explore to find those hidden quests, and eliminates the need to talk to the numerous NPCs that populate the world to find quests, therefore making the game less imersive.
So if we want the truest experience of classic, quests helper addons should not be allowed.
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