well this is because youre a good person and are aware that twinks are often the problem and you take pains to alleviate that.
But not everyone is so kind or thoughtful. The ability exists to clear TW dungeons in less than a minute and building a character that can do that takes less than an hour. This incentivizes less-than-ideal behavior. Very few people are going to build these toons and then decide to just go at the groups pace anyway.
Lifesteal isnt scaling to level like other similar enchants and provides an outsized amount of damage and healing at low levels. Its not a huge ask to make it scale to level and doing so not only makes it consistent with other enchants, its fixes this obvious issue and also doesnt lend itself to unintended consequences (except gasphorror maybe making it relevant at high levels)
I donât like the idea that we even need to have this discussion to start with to clarify. I suspect you probably donât either. That said, twinks are already largely separated from non-twinks in pvp, all youâre doing by applying it to pve is leveling that playing field.
Problem with simply ignoring people to not group again is it may prevent a future issue with Johnny 2x4, it doesnât help me in the here and now. Plus I could still get grouped with Timmy or Suzie who are doing the same thing.
Fact that blizzard could solve this in 5 minutes is why itâs infuriating they refuse to do the work.
Most everyone else did sign up for a free carry. In fact, many are likely disappointed when they donât get the twink tank.
Blizzard embraces this kind of game play. MoP Remix was pretty much ENTIRELY about this game play. It will not surprise me if we get this kind of game play in the new zone, much like we did in Forbidden Reach.
âGogogoâ is unannounced official policy of Blizzard. M+ is all about this style of game play (but you actually need to participate, in contrast to the lower level casual stuff). If you donât want that gameplay, its available in high end raids.
And players, in the large, like it. Its exciting and rewarding. Filling the screen with flashy graphics and explosions, watching mobs health melt in the fire. Itâs fun to watch, easy to play, and rewards players with currency and gear â which is why many of them play in the first place.
The methodical, thoughtful, dangerous dungeon clear â thatâs long gone. Heck, itâs not even in Classic. When I was playing Classic Wrath, Iâd get in a LFG dungeon group andâŠyou guessed it, âoff they go!â, so I just glue down the W key and try to keep up.
The slowest content I do is Delves, but thats just me. And the (to me) annoying part of it is simply the mobs have too much health. I never quite enjoyed slamming spells over and over and over into the same mob. The lone elites in the open world arenât as healthy as the Delve mobs are, and it just gets tedious (theyâre not even mechanically interesting). Less health, more dangerous would be more interesting to me. Let me kill them faster, but make sure I pay attention to the mechanicsâŠâor elseâ.
Funny how I addressed that already had you read the rest of my posts. My first comment was to the OP concerning their idea not the overall issue of the scaling.
Yep. And thatâs what I was talking about earlier when I said people can set out a vote if said twink is being detrimental to everyone elseâs enjoyment.
Objectively false. YOU are signing up hoping for a carry. The vast majority are signing up for group content, not to be your +4 to follow around behind you doing nothing. Youâre certainly free to want a carry. What you donât get to do is come into a group, force it on everyone else, then tell the people who want to actually play the game to âsuck it upâ. Sorry but youâre not so important you get to prevent 4 other people from playing who never agreed to that. If a group agrees to it and wants it, more power to them.
No they most certainly do not enjoy only getting to watch other folks do that. See the past 20 years of precedent for this game that theyâve NEVER wanted people one shotting things in current content, be it scaled or otherwise. Something being possible does NOT convey intent.
Youâre free to like whatever pace you want, and youâre free to enjoy having twinks in your group. I wouldnât care if the twinks were in the group if not for the fact theyâre currently able to one shot everything and I donât get to play at all as a result. No one singular character should be able to turn 5 man group activities into a 1 man solo event. Thatâs just piss poor design. And honestly if people consider playing their toons this massive chore, why are they are here? Like legitimately, help me understand why people pay to access a game, but whine about it being a chore while continuing to play.
Then group with twinks of your own accord and leave the rest of us out of it.
i am so sorry that you got carried by a low level person in decades-old irrelevant content. i know this is a trying time in your life n we should all come together to support you.
In all seriousness, it has become my preferred playstyle. I no longer have the time or energy to chase the carrots that blizz throws at endgamers, bores the hell out of me.
Having a wife, five kids and a granchild, I do not have the time to dedicate to this game like some people, after all its a game, its how I like to relax, I do not want it to be a job, already have one of those. So I twink, its easy, fun and not at all boring.
Even without a twink TW n lowbie leveling dungeons are faceroll (minus Mana Tombs with the mobs that will 1 shot players with shield bash lmbo) lol stahhhhp.
Itâs a tiny number of players who think everybody should be on RP walk speed who are pushing this narrative. Maybe theyâve been put here to prep players for an upcoming planned change that will eliminate access to leveling dungeons for anyone less than max level.
Or maybe itâs just a typical videogame tribalist who thinks that everyone who plays the game in any way differently from how they play (or claim to play) is practicing degenerate gameplay and needs to be banned. Because there are far too many people still playing the game, and this needs to be fixed.
Many of us stayed on retail because we thought remix was boring. For me this was one of the reasons I avoided it. Iâd like the main course of the WoW meal (retail) to be nothing like gimmicky side modes.
Plunderstorm didnât have classes but that doesnât mean that retail PvP would be better without classes.
No because it is the freshly leveled max level toons who âneedâ the gear at best to get to the ilvl base needed to do t8 delves solo comfortably. This toon and several others have no reason to do any or, at most, 1 for the tokens now that the vendors have tons of expensive new collectibles to buy.
In fact I may just spend some of my time today to run a few of the healer/tank level 70âs through to get some extra tokens to turn in in anticipation for the next one and I hope that every one of those runs has a twink in them. Iâm totally fine with left of bell curves wanting to feel special and useful slogging it out in stupid easy content while I get âcarried and invalidatedâ by twinks because at the end of the day, I get exactly 0 sense of pride out of knowing I âconqueredâ TWing dungeons like they do. Pretty sad and low bar, but thatâs their business.
If Iâm in my umpteenth run to finish my TWs, Iâm not praying for people like the OP, Iâm hoping for a twink doing their best blender impression to blitz content
Remix is okay on short burst. And this timewalking is one such burst.
I donât even understand the issue, timewalking content is more than a decade old at this point, if you want to admire the views, you can do it solo. All TW is lately is to level up and do your 5 a week. And a twink lets me do that faster.
I will never understand this. i think a majority of people when TW comes, just wanna do their 5 for the rewards, que for the raid. and maybe level some alts. Players WANT quick and easy runs for these reasons.
If OP, and people like them want to have a more grounded experience. Nothing is stopping them from popping into the FLG tool and creating one.
I will on the other hand be trying to get my 5 done quickly for the badges for Tmog thank you.
