Sorry you’ve only experienced negatives. Plenty of us are able to figure out how to avoid bad people and play together without issue
Could we at least get this for full premade groups? Nothing worse than getting that one piece a friend wanted at the end of an M+, and having to D/E it before their very eyes.
Hell. Let us trade only among friends - that’d still be a massive upgrade in quality of life.
Convenience of saving 30 seconds on loot trading, or removing the ability for one person to abuse the hard work of everyone in the raid.
That’s what you are weighing. To me, it seems like an easy choice.
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I think restrictions should be removed. I’m now convinced that guild problems can be resolved by other means. Guilds that are unfair will perish by their own accord.
I still want to have control over who knows whether or not that I received loot as I describe here though:
It’s my loot, and if I want to put it up for trade I’ll link it. Otherwise, nobody needs to know.
“No.”
/kick
“Good, they were jerks anyway”
If you want to ignore the fact that I said very clearly, either ML for guild groups or 100% tradeable PL would be good I don’t know what to tell you.
And, not that you’ll comprehend, but not everyone ninjas loot
Edit forgot: why do you care if my guild wants to save that 30 seconds when it wouldn’t affect you at all?
You asked…
Because it isn’t only affecting you and your guild. If ML is allowed back in, then it will be required and abused (not by most, but some).
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ML was good when 2-3 items dropped for 40 people. The way loot is freely distributed now would be too much. I hear it’s being reduced in SL, but PL + RNG has worked well. Doubt they’ll change it.
If your guild insisted on switching back to ML, and you were against it, then IMO you no longer are a good fit for each other.
Luckily so many people hate ML that obviously, not all guilds would make that switch, and even if you had to leave one, there would be plenty of like minded ones out there
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The hypothetical scenario is that some guild out there will “force” a player to trade something with threats of gkicking them if they don’t trade the item.
Which is honestly a ridiculous hypothesis considering A. they don’t have to trade it if they don’t want and B. why would that player even want to continue being in that guild?
Meanwhile in reality, actual feelsbad constantly happening with not being able to trade gear that we would have good feels about by giving it to a guildie who needs it.
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Yes! Exactly!
You could set the loot to free for all instead of master loot 
You can force people to trade loot now if you want to. Is it a problem now?
What’s funny is this notion of some people are entitled to loot over others which I see kept being repeated. That’s only your opinion nothing more and not in line with the game design.
If someone won the loot it’s theirs plain and simple. I don’t look at someone who won a piece I wanted and say “man I did way more than them so I deserve it” no I just say “typical Pants luck”
You can’t force people to trade loot. You can say “Give it or kick”, but they still don’t HAVE to trade it if they don’t want to.
100% tradeable PL would work just the same and benefit a lot of people.
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Exactly, so there is no reason we can’t just open up the trade restrictions for guilds.
Also Loot restrictions are in place the same reason ML was remove. So you can’t funnel all loot to a single set of players during progression.
Then Blizzard should just disallow all loot trading then because ilevel has been such a terrible indication of power for such a long time that people can still get upgrades that are “downgrades”
This is a ridiculous notion though. Could or would it happen? Nefarious guild leadership exists and I’m sure it would happen somewhere, but is it going to be a widespread issue? Doubtful, let alone no real evidence of it. And if guild goes with organized looting method that would involve loot council that would mean every member, trial or not, would have to trade loot around after a kill. Logistically speaking it’d kind of be a nightmare.
I imagine most guilds these days wouldn’t go through with it and would just maintain trade it if you don’t want it, keep it if you do. And in this loot system trials can always refuse if the guild attempts to pressure them after not being upfront about loot rules (and why would you want to stay with them anyways), but if you join a guild that uses loot council you know what you signed up for as a trial.
Regardless Blizzard does not need to be monitoring us on how we handle loot. Period. Plus the idea that all guilds are corrupt and attempting to use fresh meat as fodder for loot needs to die. This game has a dwindling population and guilds as a whole are desparate for good members that will show up. They don’t want to steal loot from you and throw you away as most guilds seem to have a recruitment issue these days.
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