Remove force personal loot in guild raids

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Now you’re trying to limit my viability in the topic either through personal incredulity or through an attempt of improper authority. This is a very common tactic when you have nothing left to add. I made my case earlier when you implied that you didn’t know why they made the change, and I even gave you an out, which you ignored. Not my problem if you ran out of material 45 minutes ago.

Sticking to your guns is admirable, but I don’t necessarily believe that every case is a case of laziness.

[sarcasm on] Yes, a majority of WoW players are, colloquially termed, Betas. [sarcasm off]

No, obviously not, nor did I make that claim. Are you sure you can make the claim that every guild gets a large enough negative connotation that forces a disband? :thinking:

Now you’re advocating for a restoration of player choice to a specific set of players. That’s ironic, coming from you.

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I don’t agree, it’s usually being lazy or incompetent. Now I can’t stand this game outside of mythic raiding so what do you do there, you look on wowprogress, you pm their members you get a general history and whether or not they plan to stick around for the long haul although that is a bit more difficult to find out.
I passed on 4+ guild invites to higher progressed guilds in wod for the one I’ve been in since, they consistently clear content and they’ve been together and probably will be together for a very long time.
Same thing goes for anything else in game, people are as I said lazy or incompetent. Gold making, I’ve plastered a few threads with how to get started, every server isn’t the same so I can’t give you a one size fits all. But most of the people that kept on complaining making gold this expansion is difficult didn’t want to put in the time/effort especially when it came to looking up something themselves from youtube videos or tsm guides etc.
The same lazy/incompetence can be found in any aspect of this game and in real life when it comes to achieving your goal you set in the first place.

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I would want Master Loot back as a loot method at all times, but I understand that it was a nightmare in pugs since Blizz would get flooded with loot tickets. It just seems like the people here who don’t do Mythic don’t want Master Loot back, so if it were brought back as a mythic only option for 100% guild groups, I would be happy. Of course it’s not ideal, but I’m sure the Mythic community would be happy to have the choice. Then you guys would be happy with Blizz holding your hands and forcing personal loot. Everyone wins it seems like.

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Let me throw a bomb in the water to see if I can get any fish to raise to the surface. Obviously if you cast a wide enough net you’re going to catch something. How can I even begin to comment back to you on this other than, “wtf m8?” Just take the damn cake.

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Okay, finally a tie to your original point. Thank you. You win. :hugs: Friends? :smiley:

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You can still abuse loot funneling with personal loot but not as effectively as you did with masterlooter, although most people that did that were in the top 1% pushing for world first kill, who cares really though, I couldn’t name a single player in method let alone care to. I’ve been in multiple top 50 guilds but I don’t expect or care to be doing the same content with them either. Firstly being in those types of guilds is aids and it becomes a chore kind of like bfa is now.

But I think that’s the main reason along with all of the loot priority groups/guilds were giving above pugs.

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He makes a good point. It’s not that Master Loot is bad, it’s that people are too lazy to find the right guild for them so they rely on Blizzard to do it for them, at least in loot method.

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Yeah, I linked a video earlier with MethodJosh explaining the loot funneling method that they used during Battle of Dazar’alor.

I’m not saying it’s not possible. Personally, my woes with personal loot are the fact it’s an unweighted table, but that’s not really the point here.

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Tbh though the ingame guild system probably only works for those that do casual content, they just want a guild for it’s perks so they queue up or what ever in that system or spam in trade. I doubt any decent raiding guild uses that for more than just adding bodies to their guild size.

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I don’t care about the loot method, I care about how I jive with people. I don’t necessarily care about the loot, if I can jam with 14, 19, or 29 other people, then let’s go.

Master Loot may return in the future, only Blizzard knows, but for now it’s gone, and is what it is. However, in the meantime, it’s all about communication.

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That 15-min reduction to the Hearthstone is just too good. :drooling_face:

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hierlooms, pets, mounts, hearthstone, cloaks for org hearth

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But honestly I don’t understand why you’re in a thread talking about the system for loot when you don’t care what the thread is about.

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I don’t care about loot either, especially as a tank. But I’ve gotten so lucky (unlucky) with forges that I can’t trade to my teammates it’s actually sickening. I don’t want the loot, I’m almost 422 ilvl in bags with useless loot I could have given to my guildies.

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I said that I don’t necessarily care about the loot, that doesn’t mean that I don’t care about the loot. I care about the community more. If I hate half of the raiders as people or as players, then why would I stick around for the loot? :thinking: That’s almost as bad as sticking around after someone takes your loot.

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Yeah I agree titanforging is disgusting especially when you try to min max your character through gearing. It also over rewards people for doing content you wouldn’t normally receive it in which is a bad system in my opinion.

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I just want to jam with others. Why should the artificial pixels have a significant role there?

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What if it was bound by whether or not you’ve seen the item? Not remove the restrictions entirely, but you’ve seen that item before. At least then you have it, and can now choose to give the item away, whether it’s the same or higher item level, doesn’t matter, the choice is now in your hands because you have it. What about then? :thinking:

Blizzard isn’t big on full backtracks, but happy mediums aren’t uncommon.

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Yeah I got a 425 grong trinket on our first kill and I couldn’t trade it to our warrior or dk which it’s bis for. I can’t use it because stunning yourself for 4 seconds generally isn’t a great idea while tanking.

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Okay, that is just bad itemization from the item team. :rofl: