These aren’t really a thing, though. People using weakaura alerts for stuff they’d normally not notice, sure, but not scripts that literally press buttons for them.
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Alright, so everyone involved in pvp has ALL the information ALL the time. We’re playing poker with 52 cards each. Very fun!
Missing Shadowlands where people just blamed gear
Now it’s addons tsk tsk always an excuse
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Keep your addons. Have fun playing against other people with addons. Fine by me!
But people without addons shouldn’t have to play against people using addons to enhance their performance.
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Because the game isn’t that scripted. If you’re using an add-on to tell you when to use something, half the time you’re going to be using it wrong.
All things aside, this is honestly confusing to me. The game is already providing you with this information. Whether it’s a visual note like wings or blade storm, an audible note like cloak, and so on. Somethings are easier to see and hear, others aren’t. So then we’re relying on the small buff and debuff icons. Why in your mind is there MORE skill in being able to see a tiny icon versus hearing something or just being able to see that icon more clearly?
Example… I made a weakaura for tracking stacks of maelstrom on my shaman. When it gets to 10 stacks, it makes a lightning sound. In my mind, that should just be a default function of the game. It makes playing my shaman more fun because I’m not constantly looking at how many stacks I have. Does that give me an unfair advantage in your mind? I would hope not.
Addons are not what make players good at the game. Deciding WHEN to use something and when not to is. Beyond all of that, positioning still matters and no add-on is telling you where to stand.
Because cast bars don’t already do that?
That isn’t true.
You can take away all my addons and give them to someone else and I’ll still beat them all the same. You’re over playing their value to a ridiculous degree and not simply seeing them as QOL tools.
If you’re a ret that never presses sanc and you download a weak aura that tells you to press sanc when it’s off cd and your healer is in cc, so you will get infinity value out of just listening to the weak aura.
If you’re a dps shaman that never presses grounding totem and you get a weak aura that tells you to press grounding totem when your healer is intim stunned, you will get infinity value out of just listening to the weak aura.
If you cannot be bothered to see the large purple psyfeind, a weak aura will blast 172 font across your screen to kill it.
Sure sanc and grounding decrease in value as rating goes up, but they provide an immense safety blanket and way to fail forward by behaving like a dog that runs to the bowl of food when it hears a bell.
You guys really just wanna put the final nail in the coffin of pvp don’t you? Lmao PvP is dead as is and you wanna make it even more difficult to get in to and learn? What a terrible take 
If trash changes like this went through there would be no one playing PvP and most certainly no new players at all.
I never understood about whining about something easily accessible to literally everyone. Just quit being lazy and download them it takes 2 minutes at most.
Homie couldn’t be further from wrong lmfao.
Surge is 15 secs, you have plenty of time to get Grounding out of the way before you do your Magi’s Spark combo.
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Sure, but an add-on isn’t necessary for that and that’s a basic 1800 level skill. For example, I use bigdebuffs to make the icons larger. That’s it. So when my healer is CC’ed it’s just easier for me to see. Beyond just being able to see it, an add-on here is mostly meaningless. To that, if you’re just blowing sanc on the first CC, it’s probably going to be wasted.
Again though, this is a very basic skill. I’m pressing grounding when I see my healer is stunned. You don’t need any add-on for that, and even if you got one, it’s still not anything impressive.
But like I mentioned earlier, if I’m on my hunter, I’m cc’ing the shaman anyways so what good is grounding? And what if I can’t cc the shaman? Then I’m stunning the healer and juking the grounding then going for trap.
Again, still not game breaking. Killing fiend is a basic skill.
Which is fine. I mean, we have people arguing on the forums that 1800 isn’t even average these days despite the starting MMR being 1800+. I think if players are given tools to learn, great. Let’s make the game more competitive.
It’s so funny you say this because I was watching markers stream resto shaman shuffles at 2100 and when he asked his dps why they weren’t killing counter strike totem or psyfiend they said it’s because their weak auras weren’t working.
Well, maybe they were joking or maybe they were playing BM. 
Also… counter strike totem and 2100? Those two don’t usually go together.
Ya that’s what happens when add ons give people free rating.
These are basic skills. That’s isn’t debatable.
I can assure you that more people are running addons than not and most of those people are still struggling.
Look, as a place of compromise, if you want to argue that weak auras specifically have gone too far, I think there is an argument there. While I wouldn’t agree with it, I think you could make a convincing argument. Now if you’re trying to tell me that using threat plates is giving me some huge advantage because I like ‘clean’ plates, I’m going to disagree with you.
Most addons don’t do much and it sounds like your main issue is weak auras that are running something like Mes’ WA pack. Personally, I tried it and found it to be overkill and annoying. I see plenty of 1600 players running every add-on possible and they still can’t execute basic skills.
I find it funny when my teammate complains he has a curse on him because his weak aura yells at him. Like congrats on having weak auras installed. Hex is the only curse I’m actively looking for. Good luck on everything else.
You’re dumb as hell if you believe that lmao.
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This is such a fried take lmao. What’s the big deal? If you think you’re losing in PvP because someone has an addon I hate to tell you but that isn’t why
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You’re wasting your time bro they’re either stupid, trolling, both or just looking for an excuse for being mediocre and for some reason they landed on addons for being the scapegoat
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People press grounding totem or wall when they cast arcane surge first global.
In their mind it’s only possible because of weakaura alerts.
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That’s a failing on PVE raid encounters not entirely sure what that has to do with PVP