Sounds like a blizzard solution…
Just take the free 10% bonus you get outside of the one or two areas that are alliance killing grounds. Like everything we are stuck with it till next expansion and even then its likely to linger.
Entropy always wins in the end.
I don’t get it, why not turn Warmode off if you don’t want to get camped?
Why not reroll Alliance if you want that 30% buff?
/thread gg and game over.
Why didn’t alliance turn on warmode? Because they were wusses and would only turn it on for massive bribes. Even though there are plenty of you out there as evidenced by the turnout.
Fair would be the same bonuses and quests, 10% was too low but 30% is far too much for one side only. Now it is evident that alliance can actually group up for wpvp you really don’t need the bribe.
However the main issue is sharding still. I can’t form a counter raid against alliance without the counter raid being punted to an empty shard… that kills the entire point
Ahh yes, all was well when Horde could get their 10% buff largely unopposed.
Anyway, I won’t disagree on sharding. Perhaps Blizz should give priority to a large grouping of players over the randoms roaming around. Not sure of the technical work that would need to go into that though.
You don’t “have” to do anything. You and your guild are putting this AP requirement on yourselves, not Blizz. Grinding AP on three characters sounds like an absolutely miserable experience.
Obviously there is not enough Alliance in wm as evidenced by Alliance getting the 30% bonus and quest 3 weeks in a row. In fact blizzard hasn’t gone far enough and should deincentivize horde by removing their 10%
Whiny hordebabbies.
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You’re comparing a guaranteed piece to 2 low drop chances. And gear mattered a lot. Limit lost because they didn’t reclear the raid, Method said G’huun was like a different boss after one extra reclear.
They weren’t getting a free 10% from launch, ally was getting the same 10%. and yes before you try strawman, i did say the whole warfront launch was a (yet another) colossal f up by blizz.
as for faction balance in both pve and pvp, said balance always followed the combat racials, emfh, wotf, zerking, ect.
I think this is misleading. As someone who did take advantage of war mode on my horde alts… there was literally no alliance to speak of. So a PvP “Bonus” without contention is just a free bonus, for it to not be free the “bonus” should have contention.
Except the factions aren’t doing the same thing. Horde have consistently (at least based on the bonus at the time of posting) significantly outnumbered Alliance in warmode in the NA region. That means that the horde is again, not facing serious contention for their bonus.
This was what created the imbalance in the first place and what lead to the need for a bonus.
Apologies for the snark, but “Turnabout is fair play”. That said this does need to be per server group as not all server groups have the same balance. Currently it’s set via the NA region as a whole. The issue is and was that in most server groups the imbalance is very noticeable in the favor of horde; to the point that the 10% bonus went uncontested for months and even now in quite a few server groups is still basically uncontested due to faction balance issues. Part of the goal of the 30% is to fix the overall faction balance issues as well as best I can tell.
Your anecdotal evidence is server group specific and thus doesn’t apply to all server groups. Please remember that. Yet again this is another reason the buff should be dependent on the balance on the specific server group.
The pendulum swings, right now it’s favoring horde. Blizz has weighted the pendulum to swing to alliance; or so they think. It doesn’t address some of the underlying issues that created the concentration of super high level players on horde.
Absolutely nothing other than Horde would dominate whatever bonus it was. The fact that horde have recently dominated PvP isn’t news.
Have you ever played EvE Online? Certain factions have huge advantages.
Nice thought, but won’t actually fix the underlying issue. The underlying issue is that the high end scene is currently mostly on horde. This is due to a variety of historical reasons some of which do actually involve goblins and KJ.
I wouldn’t call this handicapping, it’s not like you’re getting any stat hits or anything.
Because that’s exactly what happened for four months. Horde players had effectively a free uncontested 10% bonus that alliance didn’t.
Absolutely agree, giving one side an incentive means they have to balance it. If they had removed the original 10% incentive it would have been more balanced because all the people with alts would have turned it off. While it would never have been actually balanced it would have at least been less of an issue. But honestly the whole idea was kinda garbage.
damn you just wrecked all of the horde cry babies pretty hard there. /salute
Who cares if there is an imbalance? Life isn’t balanced.
Agreed, the issue is the original 10% bonus. As I stated in my post above if that had been removed the whole point of contention wouldn’t have mattered.
I wouldn’t say that at all, I would say I was responding to some misunderstandings.
as a 3rd party participant, no, you wrecked the horde cry babies into next week.
oh look a horde player with a foolish analogy. pro tip - this is a computer game not “life”
Free choices create imbalances. The only way to correct imbalance is force or coersion. If you aren’t down with either, population imbalance isn’t fixable.
Wrong again. Imbalanced horde racials that go years without being corrected creates imbalances. A balanced game generally provides balanced populations.
Or the generally more casual atmosphere of the alliance? I’ve experienced way more drama as alliance over the years than the time I’ve spent as Horde.
P. S. When every man for himself came out, a lot of high level pvp people went human.