Regarding the seal twisting change on beta

[Wushang-frostmourne]

@Smeet-sulfuras

They did not decide that twisting was worth both salvaging and doubling in power. They did not decide that they wanted to make twisting more integral to the class than it already was. They were trying to recreate the effect with reasonable accuracy (hence the asking for feedback on the accuracy).

@Kaivax

Developers’ notes: The concept of “seal twisting” was only possible due to spell batching. With a greatly reduced batch size, we’re adding a slight buffer when you swap seals to allow you to proc two in the same swing. This was not an intended interaction in Original WoW, but it’s a fun quirk of WoW Classic gameplay, and we want to allow Paladins to retain the ability to do this. Please let us know how this compares on the PTR to how seal twisting currently works on live realms.

Sounds to me like they are simply asking for Feedback on the system in general not the approach you seem to be preaching for, your reaching for straw man

@Smeet-sulfuras

That’s almost certainly why the seal buffers were removed off of all of the seals that are not SoC or SoR.

They were removed because their getting feedback if it turns out that feedback is negative you can be sure it will be reverted

@Smeet-sulfuras

And it should still be removed from SoR for closer accuracy.

One size does not fit all stop preaching accuracy your sounding like an Alexensual stan at this point the same people who wanted spell batching in wow classic which was a terrible idea and the majority of the classic community hated it, Accuracy does not = good

@Smeet-sulfuras

Blizzard asked for feedback to make it more accurate, not to make it less clunky, more powerful, etc.

Blizzard asked for feedback stop reaching for straws

@Smeet-sulfuras

That’s why it’s not the same thing. There isn’t supposed to be the free GCD time when twisting every swing by doing it both ways. Leaving that free time in has somewhat large balance implications. It also skews how rets gear involving haste, as it creates weird effects on haste’s stat weight at a much slower speed when trying to twist.

Not sure how you misunderstood what I was saying but I’ll try to explain it in caveman for you beta 1 is not the same thing as original tbc it’s similar the point I made was it was similar to the beta 1 approach not the original, as for the free gcd no idea what your talking about judgement is the only spell with a free gcd if your referring to the old tbc approach, stop it was a bug their not going to recreate identically a bug just to sate you

@Smeet-sulfuras

It also skews how rets gear involving haste, as it creates weird effects on haste’s stat weight at a much slower speed when trying to twist.

you mean you have to actually pay attention to the game? wow who’d have thunk that?

@Smeet-sulfuras

If the autoattacks do not happen at the exact instant they would automatically occur, you are delaying them and thus losing dps. Manually autoattacking is not going to exceed just letting your swing timer run.

I don’t know how many times I have to explain this to you the macro was used for 2007 it wont be affected with current technology outside of pvp this won’t have any effect on pve