Why stop there?
Maybe we should completely get rid of flying and just type coordinates of the location we want to visit and automatically pop there with a short loading screen?
Youâve missed what seems like 100s of posts in the forums then if you thought that was the only reason.
Again, thereâs not a maze or obstacle course of trees making DR a headache to use.
Irrelevant.
And if youâre trying to imply that WoW has no trees, thatâs wrong.
Either way, flying so high up in the sky where thereâs no trees can reach you is an optimal way to dragonride because you all the obstacles, hitboxes or whatever you we wish to call them⌠are down there. 
And itâs not like it takes so long to get up high to the sky. It takes like 10 seconds.
What, is 10 seconds now taking forever, lol?
Oh no itâs fine like it is thanks. Dragonriding for just getting from here to there, regular riding when you need a precision landing or to hover to check something out.
No. Just stop trying to get fun things nerfed.
Dragonriding takes effort. Regular flight does not. No, they should not be the same speed.
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Itâs relevant since itâs what youâre talking about.
Which takes time.
No it isnât.
Not really. Trees are Trees. Regardless if itâs a Maze or not as youâve said. All youâre really saying is thereâs no trees in WoW, which that is wrong.
Howâs 10 seconds is âTake timeâ worthy?..
Yes it is, and iâve already proved it. Lying by saying âNo it isnâtâ simply demonstrates your lack of knowledge on dragonriding.
The Trees are on the ground, and you are further up then the trees. Therefore, you canât hit the trees if youâre high up in the sky. And thatâs factual and makes sense.
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In all my years of playing I have never had any issues with trees anywhere in this game.
The time to go up, then to to go down. Instead of just going to your destination.
You havenât proved a thing. Trees existing is not some gotcha since only you seem to be in fear of them, again, theyâre not some malevolent impenetrable obstacle course everyone suffers from.
You donât need to hit the skybox to avoid hitting trees.
Andidotial evidence canât be used for objective evidence.
We all know WoWâs hitboxes for trees are very inconsistent and bad, even with regular flying.
Itâs litteraly 10 seconds. 10 seconds.
Unless youâre super impatient, first off, get over it⌠10 seconds is not gonna hurt you.
Itâs an objectively a better way to do it then just trying to dodge trees or pray the hitboxes youâre about to hit allows you to phase though. Because you at a high speed with a slow turn speed, itâs better to take the 10 seconds to fly over the trees, since you would be dodging trees anyways.
Trees are on the ground, you up in the air, you canât hit trees that are below you.
Itâs a common sense fact that even a fetus understands.
What is wrong with that fact?
What the hell are you talking about?..
Iâm talking about trees as an annoyance in the context of Dragonriding here. Youâre the only one that is taking it mega seriously to think it has something to do with fear.
âŚI didnât even hit the skybox in my video. Thatâs not the max height you can reach lol. That happens to be enough of a height in order to avoid trees and other inconsistent hitboxes.
Then what are you doing?
10 seconds up, then whatever time it takes to get to your destination
⌠or I could just go where I want to go.
And you would have a point if your way was always faster or if maneuvering below the skybox was a chore. Itâs not.
âTree on groundâ does not translate into no one being able to fly near them and you being right.
I could aks you the same thing.
Dood, look at what youâre going on about as if no one is able to DR because of trees⌠which isnât happening.
Or you can just fly normally and also avoid them.
Well for one, iâm not doing this whole âNo uâ thing youâre doing right here, so thereâs that.
For second, iâm using objective evidence. Trees in WoW have terrible hitboxes. You canât really tell if a branch you would hit if youâre able to phase though or stand correctly or not. You havenât explained how Trees donât have bad hitboxes, when i can go to Azure span and try to touch the branches of the tall trees, but end up phasing though them.
Meanwhile i lost the number of times i hit a tree, only to be standing in dang air. As if they messed up the hit box position and itâs just slightly off the branch model.
Yeah, i take the optimal route.
Optimal in this context ultimately cuts out the risks of crashing into stuff, which in the long term, makes it faster in the long run.
Plus, we have vigor charges, thrill of the skies, ground skimming and so on to make the process faster to do. Not to mention, the differing tree heights per zone, so that 10 seconds is not even static, it can just be 5 seconds or 2 seconds even.
Are you saying Trees are in the Air? Lol.
Also, what the heck are you talking about now?.. You assume so much.
This whole âFearâ thing came out of nowhere from your own assumption (Presumably your misunderstanding of something so simple and basic of what iâm getting across here) of my comments. You confuse âFearâ with âAnnoyanceâ.
Why you keep misintrepreting what iâm sayingâŚ? Where is this coming from?..
My way of Flying is just about as normal as yours. Idk why youâre trying to gatekeep people with immediate hostility over somebody who flies differently from you. Not even i have done that to you. I mean it sounds kind of deranged to imply my way of flying is not normal when⌠people have most likely done this and even shared the same tips, such as âLooking up while pressing space bar to get thrill of the skies while launchingâ for one. Itâs in no different result then what iâm sharing.
I only shared my video to show how easily the âConsequencesâ OP is talking about can be easily circumvented with very little minuscule time lost. Something that Blizzard allows just fine, infact, from the getgo with Regular flying since TBC. The only difference the regular flying didnât have physics to consider.
Because itâs irrelevant? Trees/obstacles exist yeah, that doesnât make DR through the area impossible though.
Iâve had that happen during the Races, you know what I did? Avoid it the next time.
That is not what optimal means. You thinking of âsafeâ
Thatâs assuming canât avoid stuff⌠when they can. It might be faster for YOU, but itâs not required and plenty of people can DR just fine without hitting stuff.
⌠have you been to the Emerald Dream?
This isnât gatekeeping, youâre touting your way as the best way, when it fact it takes longer, all on the the belief that trees and other obstacles canât be avoided. Which is fale.
It is relevant. Whether you want to subjectively disagree or not. WoW has bad hitboxes on Trees. And with DR with physics to consider, that issue is painfully spotlighted because they were never considered for DR it seems.
If the best hitboxes are the cliffs, then thatâs kind of an issue. Mainly because Cliffs easily telepath to you that itâs a consistent hitbox.
Because you can literally fly over it. As my video shows.
Yet you seem to disagree with blatant proof showing we canâŚ
Thatâs easier said then done when you have to hit checkpoints in a pretty fast paced raceâŚ
Worse is that Blizzard in their infinite wisdom, doesnât to not have mid race corrections like bronze time lock thing, or recharging vigor ability⌠You hit something, you stop dead and itâs a hard reset. If all the trees do is just slow you a bit and not hard stop you, then it wouldnât be much of an issue.
Optimal can be safe too.
Case and point; Healer DPS.
It helps anyways. I donât see whatâs the reason to be against it.
Itâs faster for everybody in the long term.
Neither is Dragonriding. Hell, Flying isnât required. You can RP walk to your destinations if you really want.
You keep going on and on about âOh itâs 10 secondsâ, and yet, you say this isnât required despite the fact it will shave off the time to recover from a crash by eliminating that part of the risk entirely?..
And also, are we not gonna bring up that some people have disabilites, or have slow reaction time? This tip right here iâve given them, probally help make their Dragonflying lives easier. You on the other hand, seem intent to make it harder by trying to gatekeep this.
Generally, the trees are on the ground.
And even if thereâs a zone with trees flying in the air⌠Iâl just fly higher then them.
Unless their high to a point where their actually touching the skybox, then iâl fly in the perfect medium where ceiling trees and ground trees canât get me either.
Which is⌠oh no, 3 seconds with no risk of crashing. Ahh. /s
Iâve already told you it saves so much time in long term by cutting out the risks. So factually, it is the best way.
I didnât say or imply itâs the only way.
Thatâs a belief you came up in your head from your own misunderstanding of my comment.
Okay so this conversation went straight into the trash when you decided to use people with disabilities as a bludgeon, you done spending tokens?
Your way is safe. Itâs valid.
Weâre gonna disagree on it being âoptimalâ. You just pulling ableism and gatekeeping accusations out of left field is just throwing filth on your stance and anything you say.
No, i didnât. Itâs adding to a point where i donât see whatâs the problem with peopleâs normal way of flying here.
What do got against people giving tips on making DR flying easier, not just for those with disabilites or slow reaction times, but for everybody else as well?
Youâre welcome to be wrong, but objectively it is optimal. No risks = Better.
And as iâve said before, Optimal can be safe too.
Because you have gatekeeping all this time by being hostile towards anybody who has a difference in flying method and it shows.
I would show you respect if you shown me respect, but you didnât.
From the moment with your first comment, youâve shown no respect towards my opinion and seek to be angry against it and not even consider the idea the person is getting across or just ignoring it if it bothers you.
You keep using that word.
And welcome to ignore.
Well i say that because itâs true. You didnât rebuke anything other then subjectively disagree while gatekeeping others.
Ahh, taking lessons from toxic positive bullies on these forums i see.
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I donât need this. I like regular flying how it is. Dragon riding is there for those that love speed.