Precisely.
Okay. But that’s what I’ll ask for because outside of modifications of price and reagent use, Dual Spec is what it says on the tin and what we got with WotLK. No need to reinvent the wheel here.
No it isn’t. I’ll pay 10k+ gold to unlock it. I just find it stupid to spend money every time I swap if I unlocked two talent specs to swap between. That’s just dumb.
I know, and I do.
That’s neat! But also irrelevant.
Actually no that isn’t what was said at all, what was said is that spec doesn’t create any special identity.
This isn’t WOTLK. This is TBCC. They’re giving us a different LFG tool, they could easily give us a different dual spec.
They gave us different feral energy.
They gave us different arena/BG mechanics.
They have shown they will modify things to unprecedented forms to “fit TBCC”.
This entire quote indicates that gold is an issue for you. If it wasn’t, this wouldn’t matter. You would think nothing of it.
You can’t simply say gold doesn’t matter to you, I mean, gold matters to me and I don’t want dual spec. Gold still matters. This isn’t a trick, gold is supposed to matter, and it does. You aren’t wrong to feel that way. That’s the intended purpose of gold.
However…
The solutions to your problems of gold exist already in the game.
Admittedly, there is no solution to your issue of not wanting to go to the trainer. I’d argue the solution is “don’t be lazy” but I’m aware that’s an unfavorable suggestion.
So bigger costs, different reagent, but still an unlockable. Trying to make us spend gold every time we respec is just silly.
Okay.
It isn’t a gold issue, it is a dumb issue. Why make it spend gold? It could be 1c and I’d still find it dumb.
My problem isn’t gold, I want to swap on the fly. Don’t make up reasons why I want something that aren’t why I want it.
Sure they could, but you would hate that just as much since your #nochanges.
I’d bet my entire account you’d have no complaints if they added dual spec and made it cost 1c to swap back and forth, don’t be cheeky lol.
That’s literally how Vanilla worked. That’s literally how Classic Vanilla worked. That’s literally how TBC worked. That’s literally how TBCC works.
You just keep proving over and over though, that the gold cost matters to you, and again that’s totally normal, it’s supposed to. That’s the point of it. Working as intended.
So it just takes me back to my original conclusion:
I’m not sure I see your lack of wanting to visit a trainer, and lack of desire to farm a measly 50g to respec each time warrants the Blizzard resources spent huddled up in the boardroom trying to address this hurdle for you.
I look at this as something that…emanates little necessity to being addressed. It’s basically a form of entitlement, to be quite honest.
If they added Dual Spec I’d be more content than I am now, but the cost would be dumb and I’d definitely complain because it is dumb.
Okay. I don’t want that unless I’m changing one of my two locked in specs.
“You’re morally wrong for wanting convenience which I define as something else”
LOL and you wonder why people don’t take you seriously when we’re being 100% straightforward.
There would be no better Warcraft representation of a Karen than a person complaining about a literal 1 copper cost to something.
Right, because the gold is an obstacle for you.
I’m not seeing a desperate need here for Blizzard to work on addressing these problems you have that can be easily mitigated with in-game effort…
What does entitlement have to do with morality?
Some forms of entitlement are justified. If I walk in to a place and pay 5 bucks for cheeseburger, I expect a cheeseburger, not a burrito. I’m justified in feeling entitled to a cheeseburger.
This might be the issue here, you’re reading the complete wrong meaning from my words it seems, because that was a near incomprehensible interpretation of what I said.
The entire process is an obstacle, and yes gold is a part of that.
The entire process consisting of:
Step 1) Going to a capital
Step 2) Unlearning Talents at Trainer (paying 50g)
Step 3) Applying the talent template you want
3 steps - using the ‘Talented’ addon.
That’s the inconvenience we’re talking about here … oh I guess we can add the one time only processes of downloading Talented, installing it, and saving templates.
“You’re a Karen!”
Oh. HAHAHAHAHA
The idea of arbitrarily putting a cost, especially a dumb tiny one, doesn’t make me a “Karen” anymore than not wanting to put a gold cost as low as 1c every time we mount up.
You are not a serious person.
No, it isn’t. I don’t know how many times I have to say the gold isn’t the obstacle, the lack of convenience is.
Read instead of making crap up.
o.O
Anyway…
Entitlement implies I expect something I’m owed. I don’t expect anything and I don’t think I’m owed anything. This is just a request. That’s it.
Correct and that’s enough of an issue that people are not doing it nearly as often or at all. Which ultimately results in them playing less than with dual spec.
That isn’t even close to the same thing because you do one vastly more frequently than the other, in fact the whole idea with speccing is that you don’t do it so frequently.
This is an actual dishonest argument. You will never admit to it, but this is an actual demonstration of being dishonest.
Doesn’t make it any less stupid.
Baking in the unfalsifiable conclusion is always a neat trick.
It 100% does. It’s no different than whining about the cost of reagents which you need to buy regularly too for trivial cost.
Lol, call it whatever you want. You’re still arguing dishonestly.
Naw.
“You’re being dishonest and if you disagree you just prove your dishonesty”
Fun trick.
I mean I am still looking for reasoning, I don’t get how having dual spec removes character investment that is necessary… It doesn’t really make sense to me.
Then it seems very contradictory to say how necessary and important it is, and how game breaking it would be if it existed, but then
So respeccing is super easy? Not a big deal now?
On one sentence you said it is game breaking, then another sentance you said it is trivial…
I only ask because I am honestly trying to understand how something that is so trivial breaks the game, and removes character investment.
Please be specific…
Good luck!
Ask Blizzard, this was the reasoning they gave.
It’s not and I literally already explained this to you, why is it that people who want dual spec just leak information that has already been conveyed to them?
It’s like an illness. It’s great when it’s not there. It’s worse when it is.
The disagreement is that it would hurt the game, of course, which I’m open to debate on.
It’s super easy right now which makes the change redundant.
However, even though it is super easy to do right now, it manages to successfully gate people who don’t want to put in the effort.
Hence, the whining for it. Those people are too lazy to put in the effort for it, and so they want Blizzard to give them a shortcut and completely erase the dynamic around why respeccing exists the way it does now in the first place, which again, is according to Blizzard in the exact post you’re quoting. It is successfully gating the players it is intending to gate from respeccing.
It makes plenty of sense if you actually care to comprehend it.
“My contradictions aren’t contradictions if you aren’t STUPID”
Nice.