Refuting basless WoW is dying claims

[Allvoltage-dathremar (Allvoltage)]

wtf, are you joking?

[Elynos-sargeras (Elynos)]

nope, are u?

[Greenmystic-thunderhorn]

Predictions of wow’s death have been going on since, well, year 1. So, white noise.

[Velara-gilneas (Velara)]

WoW subs are dropping rapidly: While some people may have left I can assure you that this is not the case simply by the reactions of other game companies. If WoW was truly in such dire straits as the naysayers said multiple MMORPGs would be springing up as other companies, smelling the proverbial blood in the water, would be trying to catch up chunks of the leaving playerbase. This is not the case so it is safe to assume that, at least now WoW is still strong enough that trying compete against it is a bad investment.

I think this is the biggest point. I don’t think it is WoW, I think it is the genre. Were it just WoW we would have seen those players migrate to other MMORPGs, but that’s not what has happened.

Like you said, not saying BfA is perfect, but certain things are being blow out of proportion.

I dunno, Meritha but I am seeing a lot of former WoW players in other games and that has been the case for the last several months. So I have to take issue that the genre is dying or in trouble – MMO pops are quite healthy.

It’s just that BfA is garbage and less resembles a real MMORPG anymore than a time-gated Diablo-hybrid on rails. WoW has lost its soul.

[Teuk-dalaran (Teuk)]

nah there is still a market for the game, legion and the beginning of WoD proved that, WoW itself just isn’t fufilling anymore so people dont play it, if WoW had meaningful and fufilling progression again the players would come back

[Meritha-thrall (Meritha)]

BfA sold more copies first day than any other expansion. I don’t think you can really say WoD proved anything at the beginning, but then not say the same for BfA.

[anon2121503]

Well, they did just pay 100 employees to leave. That doesnt sound too good.

Apparently they offered them that pay off multiple time with increasingly higher amounts before they took it. That call center or office or w/e is about to get axed I bet.

Amazon does the same thing, offering severance bonuses to employees who want to leave, and they seem to be doing just fine.

Nonsense. Did you read what actually happened?
They kept jacking up the $$$ for them to leave. THAT ISNT just letting them leave because they want to, friend. That is DESPERATION NEEDING them to leave…ie a business who is cutting back because they are in financial trouble.

[Teuk-dalaran (Teuk)]

WoD had the highest sub numbers since Wrath on launch, bfa only sold copies, and clearly they didnt stick around

[Meritha-thrall (Meritha)]

We have no idea what the sub numbers were at the beginning of BfA. So again, your statements aren’t proving anything.

edit: I am going to leave it here before I get into another anecdotal argument.

[anon2121503]

Predictions of wow’s death have been going on since, well, year 1. So, white noise.

And the game has apparently been in steady decline for a few expansions now, overall.
So it takes a little longer than some expected for it to finally fail…so what?
The predictions are still right when the game finally does fail.

[Teuk-dalaran (Teuk)]

im gonna avoid and arguement too but all im saying is that the sub numbers from WoD, and the sales from Legion and Bfa, do prove the market is still there, WoW itself is just not good

[Oakttg-malganis (Oakttg)]

You’re not a mythic raider so stop saying you are to boost your argument. I have yet to see anyone actually good at the game that hates the game currently

Game is bad.

[Chillgrave-wyrmrest-accord]

A large number of people are having the same problems? Oh no… that might mean that a large number of people are running into the same road blocks.

Because everyone is quitting because some butthole on the internet said something. People don’t have opinions or experiences, what are those?

[Elynos-sargeras (Elynos)]

Or you are, one of those. I mean an hour to complete a +10, I would be mad too if that was the best I could do

[Therric-frostwolf (Therric)]

Popular Youtubers and streamers are leaving in droves: Yes that is the true but WoW is dying is not the reason. You must understand a lot of the people who are crying that WoW is dying also make up these youtubers and streamers subscription base. The REAL reason they are hating on the game is to keep their subscriptions high and thus keep making lots of money. Now not all streamers do this buy some of them do and we must be wiling to look at those who are actually passionate about the game and notthose who are just chasing subscribers

Unapologetic truth.

If you’re not hating on the game then you’re not getting likes/favorites/subscribes.

[Skarin-galakrond]

What content? They only create hype and give opinions.
That’s not content.

They help introduce the game to people. For example the ONLY reason Five Nights at Freddy’s got such a following was because of Pewdiepie.

[Puremallace-arthas]

Stock price is more affected by Diablo Immortal tanking at Blizzcon. Also ATVI valuation was at 34 P/E meaning they would have to pull in insane profits to justify that. As the market tightened the money supply via the fed it was bound to tank and ATVI is included when the rest of the tech sector got taken down.

Similar periods in WoW:

1. Sunwell pre Wrath
2. 8 month drought between Trial of the Crusader and Icecrown
3. Infamous period after 5.2
4. 6.0 to 6.2 in WoD. Judging from what I have seen only thing that did not gut this game was announcing Legion.

The issue right now is simple. Currently the storyline is just not interesting after something like Legion. You went from Titans, Other planets and space ships too trolls with Jamaican accents and RNG heavy loot system.

I just came back and I honestly regret not coming back for Legion as that honestly sounds far more interesting then BFA. Currently I am giving it a chance but I can definitely see the complaints.

Blizzard has a lot of old god content that they need to tap ASAP.

[Skarin-galakrond]

Currently the storyline is just not interesting

Ironically the story of Draenor and Legion was what was complained bout by the RPers. We did not want our MC to be the chosen one or a great Alliance commander. Having 50 people walking around with Ashbringers killed any sort of immersion. BfA brought us back to what we always wanted, just another soldier of the Alliance.

[Puremallace-arthas]

Having 50 people walking around with Ashbringers killed any sort of immersion. BfA brought us back to what we always wanted, just another soldier of the Allianc

I agree with the legendary issue and it was addressed with BFA but being just another soldier trying to recruit yet another race is getting old. They are obviously leading up the idea that the Horde and Alliance are wearing each other down then N’Zoth will make a move through Ashara in 8.2

Nowhere am I seeing an NPC saying that Azerite literally bleeding from the planet might not be such a good idea to farm or what the consequences will be. If anything we are being encouraged to do it. What would have been a cool concept is as more and more Azerite is farmed that it started to kill the planet. LITERALLY just hijack the Final Fantasy 7 plot.

[Quarrels-thrall]

To be fair I didn’t read your post, just the title. Because “WoW is dying” has been going around for years. Nothing new really. If one wants to take the time to read them you can glean some legitimate issue probably but having to sift through all the gunk makes it hard.