I actually agree with you here. I think there was potential for an interesting story where the Alliance pulls the Blood Elves back in but they’re still harder and meaner than they were before. It would give the Alliance some much needed harshness.
Unfortunately that’s not the story we got, which is why considering the story we did get, I argue that the Blood Elves joining the Horde makes perfect sense.
For sure, it’s not to say they don’t work as Horde either.
In all honesty I think the terrible writing has just made me think in hypotheticals a lot more than is probably necessary.
I think the only thing there is to be said here is that the storytelling has been poorn in ways to say the least. That’s not to say the writters aren’t trying since I’m not them and can’t say one way or the other, but it sure does feel like they could try a bit harder from my perspective.
I think what bothers me the most though is that I just straight up don’t understand why races like say the Tauren are perfectly fine with some of the choices the horde overall makes. And I especially don’t understand why they would want to participate in the burning of a certain tree given the general culture of the Tauren.
Really I don’t understand why either of the races would want to fight each other, I’m not trying to put anyone on a pedestal really I just straight up don’t get it.
Their historic ties were to the Alliance of Lordaeron. The Forsaken who initially drew the Blood Elves into the Horde were Lordaeranians, except for their leader, who was – as you keep reminding us! – an elf, and not just an elf, but a hero of her people.
If we ignore aesthetics and nomenclature, you could argue the Blood Elves shared stronger historic ties to the Forsaken than to Stormwind. Is there any reason to discount this line of thought?
Even more importantly, the Forsaken were there to help. That is what the Blood Elves were before they could have offenses by the time of Mists: people trying to survive.
In fairness, I feel like that invites a slippery slope. Are we then to assume the Alliance of today have no historic ties to the Alliance that existed in WC3 and under just because it goes by a different moniker? I would say not personally, in fact I don’t think the Alliance has changed all that much from what it was even then.
Though, still, that does beg the question, does that mean you think Alliance have nothing to take from its own history because the majority of its two historical members were sliced off and given to the Horde, meaning the Horde now share just as much of the Alliance’s history to itself as the current Alliance does?
Because they forced the Alliance to hold the idiot ball in that specific event.
Has the Horde returned their conquered territories? That would be interesting.
No races ever stay “hard and mean” after joining the Alliance. The writers keep trying to do this, and failing.
First the Night Elves.
Then the Worgen.
Now the Void Elves.
All of them lost their edge as soon as they joined the Alliance. People complain about Blood Elves not being edgy enough now as it is. Their softening would have been faster and more complete in the Alliance. They’d almost certainly have mended fences with the High Elves by now, for example.
Well Anduin seems happy now that Soyfang’s mudhuts are back in charge. So you’ll all just have to be happy too.
Better add the Dark Iron to the races the Alliance has defanged.
Thank you for reminding me that the Forsaken also have stronger ties to the Alliance than they ever did with the Horde. Seeing as they were literally people of Lordaeron.
The Forsaken being on the Horde is just another example of incoherent bad writing.
I agree with that too lol. I did say I think the potential was there (though I’m a bit biased since I love the Blood Elves because I find their story compelling and think I would regardless of where they ended up)… not that I think Blizzard could capitalize on the potential effectively.
Here is the thing. They are undead. To the living, they were/are not the populace or Lordaeron but monsters made out of their corpses. That is what it means to be called Forsaken.
Just wipe out the Orcs and the Horde wouldn’t be nearly as warmongerish ever again.
It’s really just the Orcs that have this massive lust for war, conquest, and bloodshed. They are sick in the head.
Saurfang said that the death of the Draenei was the Horde’s bloody legacy. He gave his life against Sylvanas in an act of selflessness as the new body for the New Horde’s legacy to be built upon.
I wager if Blood Elves stayed Alliance they would have actually followed through with the High Elves being fully wiped out and Blood Elves would have been all that were left of the race.
Instead of this weird thing where they feel like they regret removing a thematically iconic Alliance ally to give to the Horde, so they keep them around for nostalgia’s sake, almost even in greater representation than actual playable races, even if that defies the logic of the lore where they’re supposed to be an extreme minority within a race that was already decimated.
The Horde of WoW wasn’t supposed to need a sacrifice and a new legacy. The Horde of WoW was supposed to be the new legacy. That’s what I signed up for, and I am deeply annoyed that they took that away from us.
• The ruling class had already irrepairably damaged the planet.
• The continent exploding is what dismantled the empire
• They went from a violent magocracy to a violent theocracy. Not exactly radical, more like reactionary. 1979 Iran vibes.
Best Alliance race are the Humans, because you don’t expect much and you get what you expected.
We’re at THREE redemption so far. WC3, MoP, and BFA. This is actually kinda silly at this point.
How many martyrs are we at now? Between Grom, Cairne, and Saurfang we’re racking up quite the ‘soul of the Horde’ body count.
They rolled a death ball over goblins.