Show me where I asked for both Shadowstrike and Penance to be reopened for transfers. I recall only asking for Penance.
Please stop misrepresenting what others are saying on these forums.
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Angry forum posts are not evidence of a majority. To claim this, you must have something measurable and controllable, such as an opinion poll.
I sure hope that all of these angry shadowstrike posters have cast their vote in the poll, where we are actually tracking and centralizing the overall community sentiment. If not, they are screaming into the void.
Endless angry forum posts have rarely achieved anything, but clear and measurable feedback has.
Look at this from blizzards perspective
What is more useful and indicative of overall community sentiment?:
A handful of shrieking forum posts immediately after a decision has been made
or
A poll of hundreds of active players
You are on a dead server as a minority group so you donât get to say âoceanic didnât want xyzâ when yes actually we did we voted a large number of us voted and have been vocal this is exactly what we want.
If you wanna say penance people didnât want this sure just donât try to represent oceanic as a minority saying we didnât want this when its exactly what we asked for and not only saved our server but our entire region.
As i said go onto the other thread and comment if you wanna try to get server transfers opened specifcally for penance.
A poll of hundreds, out of thousands who didnt respond. Regardless of discord metrics you have MANY more players on SS than the 400-500 who replied.
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And yet I can quote several of your posts where you have claimed that the âOCE majorityâ have spoken and dont want transfers which is demonstrably false. Perhaps take your own advice and start referring to Shadowstrike only and not the âmajority of OCEâ.
âyou can login and play your characters as normal on their original realmâ
Thatâs a hard disagree. Iâm completely locked out.
A statistically significant portion responded. People who are active in the game and engaged in the community. Itâs a very high quality sample, and indicative of the overall community sentiment. This is how statistics and opinion polls work, itâs not a country referendum.
Many of us disagree that itâs statistically significant.
Youâve spent your entire evening and the days beforehand replying to people saying âI am on an oceanic server and would like to transfer to the mega serverâ by telling them they donât exist and you know better because you have a discord clique with a lot of spare time on the internet.
Most normal adults donât use public discord servers, my kid uses discord like that. Any adult in those servers have horrible personalities ruined by the internet, we donât want to talk to you, interact with them or try polls. Your clearly upset and that isnât our problem.
Itâs not your fault entirely, the professional gaming company we pay shouldnât have responded to your incessant immature spamming in this way.
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No one should disagree that 500 responses is statistically significant, itâs extremely bad faith do so.
Opinion polls from high quality samples do not require a high % of participation to be reasonable accurate.
I am not claiming it is completely accurate and infallable, but if you apply a large error margin of 10, 15 or even 20% itâs still showing a clear majority.
It cannot be ignored.
Please allow Penance to transfer to WG. The server is dead.
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please allow anyone to transfer at all its like you guys opened transfers and went to bed.
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Adding my voice to the OCE choir.
Please let us transfer from Penance to Wild Growth.
As for Shadowstrike. If there is such an overwhelming majority that want to stay then they wonât mind if a small minority of their realm-mates want to jump ship for the greener pastures, surely.
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I can also see that as we speak, penance players are joining the shadowstrike discord and voting in favour of merging shadowstrike.
Why they would do this, I am not sure, itâs not their realm? Very weird behaviour.
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Well, when SS players have been claiming that ALL of OCE (including Penance) voted in the majority to not transfer, then one must expect that those on Penance are actually going to want to have their say 
FCMs are a death mark on any realm, there has never been a realm which has survived FCM being opened up on it, regardless of community sentiment.
20-25% transfer away, leaving huge gaps in raid teams which guild leadership canât fill up easily before the next raid night.
Multiple missed raid nights just make more people xfer, not because they want to, but because they feel forced to.
You donât have a community on penance or discord where you can do that ? you need to use the shadowstrike discord to skew results haha you just sound upset man go take a breather and think about what your saying first.
OPEN the servers, let us transfer from Shadowstrike
If these smooth brains think the majority dont want to transfer then Shadowstrike will be fine.
Let the people that want to transfer off transfer off
So because 500 out of thousands of people want to stay, then the rest can just lump it?
How many alt accounts do you guys think Elron is commenting on? surely 3 out of the 9 people who want to stay on this server are just Elrons alts
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