No, I’m not - I’m saying that long term implementing “swim flying” isn’t a good solution for the health of the game
I have made ZERO arguments for the removal of it (and yes, removal; Ion has said it is coming in Dragonflight and it should - long term though better design is always a better option than a bandaid)
Yes, because I can see beyond my nose
One can’t make large-scale changes to stuff that’s already made; that’s not how designing MMOs work so of course one has to advocate for changes in the future that makes bandaid solutions not necessary
People like yourself and others who are purposefully mischaracterizing what I am saying because you want to paint me as an ableist yes I would love if ya’ll would quit that and read rather than project
In DF sure
Again I’m not saying anything about that short term
Oh-kay, then here’s my issue with this take:
Solve the “empty world”-feeling that the type of flying that has existed since TBC creates
A good solution solves issues relating to accessability WITHOUT creating a world that is empty and devoid of players - I have played the game since vanilla, I know how each and every single expansion has played out in terms of with and without flying
A good solution is one that enables people to play the game without taking away from the game itself - Dragonflying is one of the first solutions that has been attempted at fixing the latter half but it made things worse for the earlier ones
Their solution to motion sickness was to add more options
When folks said that they couldn’t use the system at all they introduced the whelpling system
A good solution is a system that works and if the system works then you add bandaids to the various areas in which it doesn’t work - the dragonflying abilities could’ve been solutions to those things, why do you think they added a “breaking” ability when folks were complaining about issues to land on top of things?
Yes, they do. Because old style flying is, literally, the swimming code reused for air travel.
That’s hilarious! The worst part about the Kalimdor cup races was getting to the races themselves on the slow as crap hover-flying mounts.
Now, I’m not against them adding old style flying to Dragonflight, but they also need to add Dragonriding to the rest of the game as well. I can definitely see people complaining that the old flying is “too slow” and it needs to be sped up, though. That’ll be kinda funny to see.
EDIT: I’m all for having both, but speed is the reason why I’d pull out a dragon pretty often (when having the option for both) when going across half the world. Then when out of stamina, pull out the old mount.
No long term solutions are needed… just give people the option to use either. Seriously it isn’t rocket science. I guess some people just like looking for solutions for problems that don’t exist.
Here’s a scenario: you’re trying to make it up a mountain, you run out of stamina. The problem becomes nil when you switch to an old mount and just fly up. The punishment for being bad at managing stamina completely negated. It’s not just about speed.
Because with old flying you will never get to elites/rares or the dreamboss thingy in time to get a single hit in before its dead.
With old flight you dont zip anywhere, you slowly flap there.
Dragonriding fanboys are basically on the same level as a cult.
Like, I’ve literally witnessed GD’ers on here say stuff like “please Blizzard just delete flying from the game, make Dragonriding the only form of flying”… they have such a cult-like devotion to their “cause” they literally advocate for choice to be taken away from their fellow players
Sorry I cross edited my post. I’m all for having both, but I love being able to fly so fast for at least part of the trip. So, I’d always pull out a dragon for those longer flights, then switch over when needed (as you are saying).
I’m now trying to support the case for old flying to help people who physically have trouble with the dragon flying, now that I learned it’s actually a problem for some people. I just think it needs to be implemented a specific way so that people don’t exploit the system that much.
I continue to believe that if standard flight had the same speed as dragonriding, you’d see a signficant switch to standard. Other than doing races, the only thing that matters really about dr is the speed. Put that onto our main mounts and all problems would be solved.
