Re-evaluate group loot in pugged raids

Because lies are lies and thus are dismissive? You want to talk about morals and passing on things people dont need but come.to the forums with a bad faith argument? Lol really?

And because Blizzard sets forth the rules. Which he followed and thus was elligible to roll need. And so he did. Regardless of your personal and entitled feelings

Also, if we make it so you cant roll on LFR gear if youre over LFR ilvl, you decrease your chances of getting gear on 2 fronts.

  1. you lose your carry folks which is 90% of the reason a boss dies and you even get a chance to roll on loot. Id love to see a full raid group of 430 folks whove never been to LFR clear it.

  2. ill repeat this: even in a full 25 member LFR raid of folks who are 430 ilvl, you still wouldnt have won your roll and you wouldnt have gotten the loot and youd still be here with the same BS story

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Excellent attempt at virtue-signaling there. You do sound very nice. Almost covers up the fact that you are suffering from greed and envy so badly that it is affecting your judgment and causing you to make embarrassing threads on the forums for all to see.

Yes.

And as already explained. Trinkets fall under armor.

I haven’t been wrong yet. Hence why you keep resorting to insulting my gameplay and everything else.

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Wow. You are wrong on so many levels.

  1. I get cutting edge each tier so LFR is the least of my concerns.
  2. There’s this cool thing called determination for those hardstuck on an LFR boss which typically equates to more successful attempts than unsuccessful.
  3. I could care less about my personal roll, this post isn’t about me and my wants/needs. The current loot system is flawed.

As for my “lie”, I didn’t screenshot or take a video, I’m going based on vague memory of what happened. If that upsets you so much well then call the cops. Wee woo

Do trinkets have a stat spread? Do they ever have more than 2 static stats?

Yet here you are complaining about LFR

Doesnt help people who afk and tank every mechanic. Ive seen LFRs with 7 stacks and carry DPS still fail

Its fair lol

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Yes

That’s irrelevant. They are considered armor therefore nothing changes.

Keep backtracking and moving those goalposts to save face.

In WotLK I got a shield in Naxx and then lost every roll for another shield until ICC. That was way longer than 3 months. All I wanted was a shield. Just one small shield.

Folks playing on real teams don’t have these issues. It’s the pug only ones, and you can’t really expect anyone else to be invested in the team if they’re never going to see the team again.

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Oh really? Which one?

Yeah it makes me recall when a hunter need rolled on a ring quite lower than, he was kicked and whispered me saying he was needing it for his wife in the group.

Never said anything when the warlock called him out to the raid leads attention.
Id of been ok with it if he then didn’t add that “my DPS was also high and I was basically carrying so I deserve it”

People with that kind of view thinking because I do good I deserve I more anyway just come off as jerks and it immediately lost any sympathy towards him getting it for his wife.

Reeks of entitlement.

Cap /10chat

find a guild and run with the same group solves this problem, otherwise unless they brought back personal loot theres no real way to solve this any further than what they made it. they could make it so you couldnt need on anything lower than what you got however this would make getting trinkets / bis impossible.

if i run a pug raid on any of my alts i go in expecting to lose all my rolls and if i win a roll its a bonus

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Join a guild or a community where stuff like this is actively discouraged or punished.

Stop complaining about strangers not being considerate of the needs of other strangers.

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In the end, Bliz defines what we are and aren’t able to roll on. Not my definition, not yours, not anyone elses. Everyone needs to stop pushing their definition on others. Bliz has allowed some needs rolls you or I may disagree with, and allowed gear trading, and allowed gold trading. Bliz is always patching in or out things they don’t like, so they’re either working on a solution or they’re ok with it for now.

Mostly, stop inspecting everyone in your raid looking for a reason to get upset. It’s allowed. Bliz is ok enough with it to not issue a statement or issue a hotfix.

LFR is for the story and transmog, if you want upgrades join a guild, run m+ or go do open world content

the other thing they need to do is to remove loot specs for current raids and just make it set to whatever role you are currently in, nothing worse than losing your roles trinket / bis to someone who is doing a different role

That’s not any worse than losing it to someone who is doing that role, and it’s better than not running at all because those folks willing to swap to tank/heal for a roll on their DPS main spec stuff won’t be there otherwise.