This is all anecdotal, but it seems that in addition to Team Comp. CR rigging is now meta. I say this because frequently I see teamswho are 10 points lower than my team, we get crushed - really just out geared at all phases - and then we lose 13-16 points.
Teams I’ve joined through the Group Finder tool say things like “Well and he’s low CR so that should help our match making.” Everyone does it because it’s an effective solution, but it’s also ruining the game. If you’re going to bring in carriers and ringers, just have the points gain/loss completely dependent on the Top CR player.
If a 900 wants to join a bunch of 1700s players - fine. But don’t judge me with the 900 included. Judge me based on the 1700.
It’s might be because of how win/loss ratios and group changes EXTREMELY affect the MMR of the team.
It seems to me like an average of about ~120 team mmr per win. If you replace people after games, or go on even a 2 game winning or losing streak, you’re suddenly in an entire different bracket of matching.
I rarely get to play more than like 5 games with most teams. But I guess Blizzard thinks it’s necessary. (maybe so people can get to CR requirements easier, idk)
they should just scrap the MMR system for being useless, whatever it’s matching is not skill. just create matchmaking weight by ilvl and be done with it.
if that happened the 2600 team wouldn’t gain any rating
as it currently stands i queue into 215+ teams at 1200-1600 in arena and RBGs all the time and lose rating to them, because the problem is gross ilvl mismatch within the same bracket
Wait… the fact that no one would ever gain or lose rating, why do you want people to queue into these matches??? the 2600 team never wins any rating, but risks maximum points too…
Because, I mean of course you know that, you can’t ever choose your opponents, lol so of course lots of games with 2600 team vs 1400 team would happen… absolutely wasting everyones time lol since no one even gets rating in this fairy world of make believe
then weight ilvl after matching by cr bracket? the point was mmr was useless for measuring similar skill and gear. these arent criticisms. ilvl matchmaking controls for the much greater issue of outgearing within the same cr bracket, nobody cares about the fantasy issue of 2700 glads stripping naked to match with 0 cr people. it’ll never define the ladder climbing experience
Sounds like some terrible groups if they actually want to lower their MMR. I want mine as high as humanly possible for the most points per win and the least dropped for a loss.
Oh man it took a while to figure out what you’re so confused about. lol it’s not even about that at all. so basically… RBGs are the best way to PvP gear… lots and lots of EXPERIENCED players, on alts or something, use RBGs to gear.
Yeah I guess you guys haven’t queued a lot. But if you are asking to break down the MMR system… that means finally playing against players youve never played against. I was hero of the horde 3 times in a row a long time ago… me and my friends completely dominate random terrible lowbies. It’s the best way to get gear lol… are you guys PvE’rs? xD
Yeah unless youve been a part of the “alt groups” rampaging your mains, nothing here hold’s any ground. I mean your opinion is to literally ‘GET RID OF MMR’ and you stand there with no weight, denying these basic facts that we’ve been witnessing for years…
Like the amount of sheer genius you are imparting on me… it must just be that the world is too stupid to understand such an extremely complex idea as ‘free for all queueing’
Brother. Not everyone is trying to push rating. You have to gear before anything else, and the FACT is that RBGs are often a preferred method for gearing… and thats without the option to queue vs 1100 teams all night… lol
The most inventive geniuses in the world are right here in BG forums. today i was educated. smfh lol
